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Thomas RUX
(18 Aug 2020 19:59 UTC)
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Alex Goodwin
(19 Aug 2020 15:11 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(19 Aug 2020 17:02 UTC)
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Kelly St. Clair
(19 Aug 2020 17:32 UTC)
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Alex Goodwin
(19 Aug 2020 17:55 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(20 Aug 2020 22:46 UTC)
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Alex Goodwin
(21 Aug 2020 10:10 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(21 Aug 2020 14:29 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(21 Aug 2020 16:25 UTC)
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Rupert Boleyn
(21 Aug 2020 18:44 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(22 Aug 2020 02:24 UTC)
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Rupert Boleyn
(22 Aug 2020 02:53 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(22 Aug 2020 06:36 UTC)
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Jeff Zeitlin
(22 Aug 2020 14:50 UTC)
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Jeff Zeitlin
(22 Aug 2020 14:18 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(22 Aug 2020 16:00 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(22 Aug 2020 21:01 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(23 Aug 2020 03:14 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(23 Aug 2020 16:27 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(23 Aug 2020 18:21 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(23 Aug 2020 23:20 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(25 Aug 2020 00:24 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2020 00:14 UTC)
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Jeff Zeitlin
(24 Aug 2020 22:33 UTC)
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Rupert Boleyn
(25 Aug 2020 01:52 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2020 03:10 UTC)
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Jeff Zeitlin
(25 Aug 2020 10:17 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2020 02:53 UTC)
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Jeff Zeitlin
(25 Aug 2020 10:38 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(25 Aug 2020 18:41 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(25 Aug 2020 18:50 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(26 Aug 2020 11:22 UTC)
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Jeff Zeitlin
(26 Aug 2020 12:32 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(26 Aug 2020 17:48 UTC)
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Jeff Zeitlin
(26 Aug 2020 18:08 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(26 Aug 2020 20:09 UTC)
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Alex Goodwin
(22 Aug 2020 09:26 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(22 Aug 2020 15:35 UTC)
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Alex Goodwin
(22 Aug 2020 16:12 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(22 Aug 2020 21:32 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(23 Aug 2020 03:33 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(23 Aug 2020 16:35 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(23 Aug 2020 18:28 UTC)
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Alex Goodwin
(23 Aug 2020 05:20 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(23 Aug 2020 09:27 UTC)
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Alex Goodwin
(23 Aug 2020 09:56 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(28 Aug 2020 16:08 UTC)
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Timothy Collinson
(28 Aug 2020 16:53 UTC)
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Interstellar Wars Timelines (was Starports)
Alex Goodwin
(28 Aug 2020 17:05 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Interstellar Wars Timelines (was Starports)
Thomas RUX
(29 Aug 2020 02:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Interstellar Wars Timelines (was Starports)
Kenneth Barns
(29 Aug 2020 23:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Starports
Thomas RUX
(26 Aug 2020 16:17 UTC)
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Alex Goodwin
(26 Aug 2020 18:05 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(26 Aug 2020 18:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Starports
hemdian
(19 Aug 2020 19:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Starports Rupert Boleyn (19 Aug 2020 19:42 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(19 Aug 2020 20:16 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(19 Aug 2020 20:51 UTC)
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Jeff Zeitlin
(19 Aug 2020 21:26 UTC)
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Thomas Jones-Low
(19 Aug 2020 21:44 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(19 Aug 2020 22:13 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(19 Aug 2020 22:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Starports
Thomas RUX
(20 Aug 2020 02:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Starports
Phil Pugliese
(20 Aug 2020 04:22 UTC)
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On 20Aug2020 0710, hemdian wrote: > I believe the usage of starport class E and X has varied over the > years. On the now defunct Core Routes website, there was a Q&A posted > between Clifford Linehan (the site’s owner) and Marc Miller that shows > the thinking at that point in time: > > | Marc Miller: > | > All worlds are generated normally, but Pop is automatically set at > 0 (and > | > so on). > | > > | > The "Zone of Barren Worlds" does not refer to only zho, it means > there is > | > no intelligent life on most of them, thus ENNN000-0 > | > > | > I use E (hard bnedrock and little else for a spaceport) rather > than X which > | > doesn't mean "no spaceport" but instead "no one allowed in (by some > | > interdicting authority)." > | > | Clifford Linehan: > | > So all planets in the barren zone have starport E unless there is > something > | > special about it that the authorities don't want you there. > | > | Marc Miller: > | > Right > > (You can still see this on the Wayback Machine.) > > And I have seen a list of class X starports in the Spinward Marches > and what their class would be if the worlds in question weren’t > interdicted. > > Since then the definition has shifted from E meaning none to X meaning > none. Book 3, 1977 says: E Frontier installation. Essentially a bare spot of bedrock with no fuel, facilities, or bases present. X No starport. No provision is made for any starship landings. So a Type E, by the book back then is less than I imagined, but it's at least a marked out place. A Type X... well I hope you've a geologist or the like aboard who can say whether that rock pad is as solid as you think before you land on it. However, it also says: Starports: The starport digit ranges from A (the best) through E (the worst); also included is X (indicating no starport). Starport type is generated using the starports table presented in the section on star mapping. Starport type indicates the type and quality of facilities present for the handling of interstellar commerce and travel. See the starport table. Which implies a Type E was still considered an actual Starport, of sorts. Book 3, 1981 says: E Frontier installation. Essentially a marked spot of bedrock with no fuel, facilities, or bases present. X No starport. No provision is made for any ship landings. So by 1981, Type E includes someone having actually marked the place as an explicit port. -- Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>