Thank you -30- Caires sends via iPhone > On Aug 9, 2020, at 7:36 PM, Jeff Zeitlin <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 18:04:06 -0500, greg caires <xxxxxx@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hang on- the Sappers perform the Rescue function! > > ... as per _Greg's_ take on the function, in Freelance Traveller, > September/October 2019 > (https://www.freelancetraveller.com/features/rules/chargen/sappers.html) > and July/August 2020 > (https://www.freelancetraveller.com/features/rules/chargen/sappers2.html) > > >> -30- >> Caires sends via iPhone >> >>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Jeff Zeitlin <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote: >>> >>> ?I should note that the March/April 2020 issue of Freelance Traveller had >>> Benedikt Schwarz's take on SAR. You can read the article in the PDF for >>> that issue, or at >>> https://www.freelancetraveller.com/features/preproom/starport/03sar.html >>> >>> I wouldn't object if someone wanted to do a SAR career for Traveller (any >>> version), or work up some rules for actually conducting SAR operations as >>> [part of] an adventure... >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:24:47 -0400, Thomas Jones-Low <xxxxxx@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've just been spending a fair amount of time reading through GT:Starports in >>>> pursuit of updating the wiki articles on starports (and connected articles). >>>> >>>> Also, there was/is an ongoing campaign with the Imperial Scout Rescue service, >>>> which may provide ideas and background. >>>> 1) http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=40189 >>>> 2) http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=40406 >>>> 3) http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=41149 >>>> >>>> Based upon my reading of GT:Starports, the Imperium generally, and the Starport >>>> Authority specifically, is tasked only with running the port. Which pushes the >>>> idea of a system coast guard service onto the system government itself. Services >>>> are paid for by local taxes as the system government has no ability to raise >>>> money from the ships conducting trade by Imperial decree. >>>> >>>> Officially. >>>> >>>> What is more likely is the local SPA director has several of your really neat >>>> designs available to perform specific SAR operations, and do some level of >>>> customs work. >>>> >>>> The Imperium allows worlds to build a local naval force. But given the Imperial >>>> Navy outclasses almost anything a local system could build and maintain, and >>>> most worlds are far enough from the border that the Imperial Navy should protect >>>> them, raising a system guard naval force may sound like a really good idea. >>>> Especially if there are colonies or stations on other worlds in the same system. >>>> >>>> The SPA can't charge post-fact charges for services rendered, but the world >>>> government could. >>>> >>>>> On 8/9/2020 3:50 PM, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The discussion of the Coast Guards in various places and particularly of the >>>>> USCG has led me to wonder what typical system wide rescue and system LE/security >>>>> might look like. >>>>> >>>>> I would assume that such a thing might start to exist once you'd been spacing >>>>> for a while and could get out to the various planets and belts and so on with >>>>> some ease enough to see some populations out there regularly and on a >>>>> sustainable basis. >>>>> >>>>> So such an entity might start to be relevant around TL-9, but TL-10 would likely >>>>> be where it started to be more robust and be justified in the economy and in >>>>> security terms. >>>>> >>>>> SG-SR would have several broad mandates: >>>>> >>>>> * Law enforcement of system-wide laws. In Imperial space, they could be in >>>>> addition to Imperial enforcement, work in conjunction with Imperial >>>>> enforcement, or they could even largely shoulder the burden to allow >>>>> Imperial assets (other than some inspectors/monitors) to be allocated >>>>> elsewhere. Local naval elements could assist SG-SR, be an parallel structure >>>>> in terms of this mandate, or direct SG-SR depending on agencies and their >>>>> heirarchies. In some particularly peaceful regions, some planets may not >>>>> even retain a system navy but instead have an SG-SR. There would be >>>>> integration/cooperation generally with local and Imperial law enforcement >>>>> around ports-of-entry, stations, and such like. >>>>> >>>>> * Providing security within the system - investigating crimes beyond the >>>>> mainworlds, pursuing and/or deterring piracy or barratry, securing stations, >>>>> high ports, and other sensitive system or Imperial assets (details would >>>>> vary depending on relationship of planet and Imperial government likely via >>>>> the charter that brought the planet into the Imperium). This also would >>>>> include security inspections of vessels, checks on the bona fides and >>>>> qualifications of ships and their crews, enforcement of safety and traffic >>>>> laws at times, and setting up temporary or permanent exclusion zones (to >>>>> avoid a danger for one reason, others exist) and for deploying aides to >>>>> navigation as necessary and maintaining them. >>>>> >>>>> * Conducting Intelligence work that falls within the mandate of protecting >>>>> ports, shipping, and so on related to system travel and commerce. >>>>> >>>>> * Search and rescue everywhere but on mainworlds - space search and rescue, >>>>> search and rescue on moons, small colonies, space habitats/stations, etc. >>>>> throughout the system. >>>>> >>>>> * In times of conflict, SG-SR vessels and personnel could be seconded to >>>>> either the system navy or the Imperial Navy. >>>>> >>>>> * May be seconded to assist in system-related science (schlepping boffins and >>>>> gear around, helping get the boffins near stellar or planetary environments >>>>> without losing them, etc). This could include some periodic system surveys >>>>> for any changes in the worlds/objects in the system and/or concerns that may >>>>> require warnings to be posted. >>>>> >>>>> What sorts of space-going assets would be involved: >>>>> >>>>> * Small fast response vessels - 500 tons or less - with a J-2 capacity >>>>> primarily used for fast in-system deployment and evacuation of injured to >>>>> stations/worlds/etc. that have better and more advanced medical options, and >>>>> with a thrust of 3gs or more (once wounded are embarked, no more than 0.75 >>>>> or so perceivable gravities would be applied). Likely bearing a turret or >>>>> two to deter some threats, but mostly focused on medical response. High >>>>> quality sensors and computers would be used to do fast, accurate searches. >>>>> There would be one or more modular cutters with casualty evacuation >>>>> configurations available. Would have a loaded rack of dropable traffic >>>>> beacons and/or sensor platforms to increase search capacity. >>>>> >>>>> * Medium sized response vessels - Small hospital ship - a J-2 capacity vessel >>>>> with thrust of at J-3 (again limited with wounded embarked) and that would >>>>> include one or more surgical blocks (ORs, decontam, isolation, ICU and >>>>> standard beds, autodocs, nurses, parameds, doctors). A few turrets just for >>>>> basic deterrence, a situation room/fleet command capacity so good comms, >>>>> decent to high end sensors to help in searches and coordination of larger >>>>> responses. Also would have the ability to drop traffic beacons and sensor >>>>> platforms. Includes multiple offloading mechanisms (cutters, straight >>>>> docking, close-in assisted line crossings, etc). Would respond to more major >>>>> incidents or help to coordinate many smaller vessels for a search of a lot >>>>> of space/ground. >>>>> >>>>> * Fast Pursuit Vessels - 500 tons or less. Thrust 6 Gees, Jump 2 for similar >>>>> reasons as above, full complement of weapons, high end sensors for pursuing >>>>> and tracking vessels and other spacial objects that are of concern related >>>>> to security or law enforcement concerns. Includes SG boarding parties who >>>>> are specialists in ship boarding and inspection for security reasons. >>>>> Includes at least one armed auxilliary able to deploy up to 16 boarders (two >>>>> teams). These vessels would be able to help in a search with their sensors >>>>> and could help with the security / traffic management during a large >>>>> disaster, but would have a primary role in going after fugitives and >>>>> inspecting vessels flagged as a potential threat to security. >>>>> >>>>> * System Tugs - J-2 wth capacity to bring back other ships on the return leg. >>>>> May be over 1000 tons. May be smaller ones that can provide a real-space >>>>> tow. Their job is to help get damaged or hazardous vessels or objects moved >>>>> to safer places for rescue/repair/disposal. >>>>> >>>>> * Tender - 400 to 600 tons - for deploying and maintaining (including annual >>>>> PMs) navigation aides, system sensor buoys, search platforms, science >>>>> platforms, and sometimes recovering or fixing in situ smaller SG-SR vessels >>>>> that have experienced serious problems that preclude them jumping of >>>>> thrusting to a repair destination. >>>>> >>>>> Funding would have a component derived from all corporations operating in or >>>>> passing through the system (a fee charged to ships or enterprises in the system >>>>> or passing through), some portion of mainworld and corporate businesses in the >>>>> system (because it is a public service), and perhaps in some places, they may >>>>> require payments after the fact for their services to help sustain operations. >>>>> >>>>> THoughts? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ?The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.? ? >>>>> Aristotle >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> The Traveller Mailing List >>>>> Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml >>>>> Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please go to >>>>> http://archives.simplelists.com >>>>> >>> >>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of >>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2020. 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