Hang on- the Sappers perform the Rescue function! -30- Caires sends via iPhone > On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Jeff Zeitlin <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote: > > I should note that the March/April 2020 issue of Freelance Traveller had > Benedikt Schwarz's take on SAR. You can read the article in the PDF for > that issue, or at > https://www.freelancetraveller.com/features/preproom/starport/03sar.html > > I wouldn't object if someone wanted to do a SAR career for Traveller (any > version), or work up some rules for actually conducting SAR operations as > [part of] an adventure... > > >> On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:24:47 -0400, Thomas Jones-Low <xxxxxx@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I've just been spending a fair amount of time reading through GT:Starports in >> pursuit of updating the wiki articles on starports (and connected articles). >> >> Also, there was/is an ongoing campaign with the Imperial Scout Rescue service, >> which may provide ideas and background. >> 1) http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=40189 >> 2) http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=40406 >> 3) http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=41149 >> >> Based upon my reading of GT:Starports, the Imperium generally, and the Starport >> Authority specifically, is tasked only with running the port. Which pushes the >> idea of a system coast guard service onto the system government itself. Services >> are paid for by local taxes as the system government has no ability to raise >> money from the ships conducting trade by Imperial decree. >> >> Officially. >> >> What is more likely is the local SPA director has several of your really neat >> designs available to perform specific SAR operations, and do some level of >> customs work. >> >> The Imperium allows worlds to build a local naval force. But given the Imperial >> Navy outclasses almost anything a local system could build and maintain, and >> most worlds are far enough from the border that the Imperial Navy should protect >> them, raising a system guard naval force may sound like a really good idea. >> Especially if there are colonies or stations on other worlds in the same system. >> >> The SPA can't charge post-fact charges for services rendered, but the world >> government could. >> >>> On 8/9/2020 3:50 PM, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> The discussion of the Coast Guards in various places and particularly of the >>> USCG has led me to wonder what typical system wide rescue and system LE/security >>> might look like. >>> >>> I would assume that such a thing might start to exist once you'd been spacing >>> for a while and could get out to the various planets and belts and so on with >>> some ease enough to see some populations out there regularly and on a >>> sustainable basis. >>> >>> So such an entity might start to be relevant around TL-9, but TL-10 would likely >>> be where it started to be more robust and be justified in the economy and in >>> security terms. >>> >>> SG-SR would have several broad mandates: >>> >>> * Law enforcement of system-wide laws. In Imperial space, they could be in >>> addition to Imperial enforcement, work in conjunction with Imperial >>> enforcement, or they could even largely shoulder the burden to allow >>> Imperial assets (other than some inspectors/monitors) to be allocated >>> elsewhere. Local naval elements could assist SG-SR, be an parallel structure >>> in terms of this mandate, or direct SG-SR depending on agencies and their >>> heirarchies. In some particularly peaceful regions, some planets may not >>> even retain a system navy but instead have an SG-SR. There would be >>> integration/cooperation generally with local and Imperial law enforcement >>> around ports-of-entry, stations, and such like. >>> >>> * Providing security within the system - investigating crimes beyond the >>> mainworlds, pursuing and/or deterring piracy or barratry, securing stations, >>> high ports, and other sensitive system or Imperial assets (details would >>> vary depending on relationship of planet and Imperial government likely via >>> the charter that brought the planet into the Imperium). This also would >>> include security inspections of vessels, checks on the bona fides and >>> qualifications of ships and their crews, enforcement of safety and traffic >>> laws at times, and setting up temporary or permanent exclusion zones (to >>> avoid a danger for one reason, others exist) and for deploying aides to >>> navigation as necessary and maintaining them. >>> >>> * Conducting Intelligence work that falls within the mandate of protecting >>> ports, shipping, and so on related to system travel and commerce. >>> >>> * Search and rescue everywhere but on mainworlds - space search and rescue, >>> search and rescue on moons, small colonies, space habitats/stations, etc. >>> throughout the system. >>> >>> * In times of conflict, SG-SR vessels and personnel could be seconded to >>> either the system navy or the Imperial Navy. >>> >>> * May be seconded to assist in system-related science (schlepping boffins and >>> gear around, helping get the boffins near stellar or planetary environments >>> without losing them, etc). This could include some periodic system surveys >>> for any changes in the worlds/objects in the system and/or concerns that may >>> require warnings to be posted. >>> >>> What sorts of space-going assets would be involved: >>> >>> * Small fast response vessels - 500 tons or less - with a J-2 capacity >>> primarily used for fast in-system deployment and evacuation of injured to >>> stations/worlds/etc. that have better and more advanced medical options, and >>> with a thrust of 3gs or more (once wounded are embarked, no more than 0.75 >>> or so perceivable gravities would be applied). Likely bearing a turret or >>> two to deter some threats, but mostly focused on medical response. High >>> quality sensors and computers would be used to do fast, accurate searches. >>> There would be one or more modular cutters with casualty evacuation >>> configurations available. Would have a loaded rack of dropable traffic >>> beacons and/or sensor platforms to increase search capacity. >>> >>> * Medium sized response vessels - Small hospital ship - a J-2 capacity vessel >>> with thrust of at J-3 (again limited with wounded embarked) and that would >>> include one or more surgical blocks (ORs, decontam, isolation, ICU and >>> standard beds, autodocs, nurses, parameds, doctors). A few turrets just for >>> basic deterrence, a situation room/fleet command capacity so good comms, >>> decent to high end sensors to help in searches and coordination of larger >>> responses. Also would have the ability to drop traffic beacons and sensor >>> platforms. Includes multiple offloading mechanisms (cutters, straight >>> docking, close-in assisted line crossings, etc). Would respond to more major >>> incidents or help to coordinate many smaller vessels for a search of a lot >>> of space/ground. >>> >>> * Fast Pursuit Vessels - 500 tons or less. Thrust 6 Gees, Jump 2 for similar >>> reasons as above, full complement of weapons, high end sensors for pursuing >>> and tracking vessels and other spacial objects that are of concern related >>> to security or law enforcement concerns. Includes SG boarding parties who >>> are specialists in ship boarding and inspection for security reasons. >>> Includes at least one armed auxilliary able to deploy up to 16 boarders (two >>> teams). These vessels would be able to help in a search with their sensors >>> and could help with the security / traffic management during a large >>> disaster, but would have a primary role in going after fugitives and >>> inspecting vessels flagged as a potential threat to security. >>> >>> * System Tugs - J-2 wth capacity to bring back other ships on the return leg. >>> May be over 1000 tons. May be smaller ones that can provide a real-space >>> tow. Their job is to help get damaged or hazardous vessels or objects moved >>> to safer places for rescue/repair/disposal. >>> >>> * Tender - 400 to 600 tons - for deploying and maintaining (including annual >>> PMs) navigation aides, system sensor buoys, search platforms, science >>> platforms, and sometimes recovering or fixing in situ smaller SG-SR vessels >>> that have experienced serious problems that preclude them jumping of >>> thrusting to a repair destination. >>> >>> Funding would have a component derived from all corporations operating in or >>> passing through the system (a fee charged to ships or enterprises in the system >>> or passing through), some portion of mainworld and corporate businesses in the >>> system (because it is a public service), and perhaps in some places, they may >>> require payments after the fact for their services to help sustain operations. >>> >>> THoughts? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law. ? >>> Aristotle >>> >>> ----- >>> The Traveller Mailing List >>> Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml >>> Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com >>> To unsubscribe from this list please go to >>> http://archives.simplelists.com >>> > > ®Traveller is a registered trademark of > Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2020. 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