Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(13 Jul 2020 04:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Rupert Boleyn (13 Jul 2020 04:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(13 Jul 2020 13:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Rupert Boleyn
(13 Jul 2020 13:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(13 Jul 2020 14:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(13 Jul 2020 19:02 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(13 Jul 2020 18:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Timothy Collinson
(13 Jul 2020 20:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(13 Jul 2020 21:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Timothy Collinson
(16 Jul 2020 11:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(16 Jul 2020 12:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Timothy Collinson
(16 Jul 2020 13:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(16 Jul 2020 14:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Timothy Collinson
(16 Jul 2020 14:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(17 Jul 2020 00:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Rupert Boleyn
(17 Jul 2020 02:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(17 Jul 2020 03:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(17 Jul 2020 09:35 UTC)
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Belt Mining in the Ziru Sirka redux - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(17 Jul 2020 12:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Belt Mining in the Ziru Sirka redux - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(17 Jul 2020 13:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Belt Mining in the Ziru Sirka redux - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(17 Jul 2020 13:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Belt Mining in the Ziru Sirka redux - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(17 Jul 2020 14:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Belt Mining in the Ziru Sirka redux - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Kelly St. Clair
(17 Jul 2020 20:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Belt Mining in the Ziru Sirka redux - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(18 Jul 2020 07:13 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Rupert Boleyn
(17 Jul 2020 13:08 UTC)
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OT - EVE Online Mining Shenanigans - Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(17 Jul 2020 13:19 UTC)
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Re: OT - EVE Online Mining Shenanigans - Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Rupert Boleyn
(17 Jul 2020 13:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(25 Jul 2020 08:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(25 Jul 2020 12:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(25 Jul 2020 14:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(25 Jul 2020 16:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Jeff Zeitlin
(25 Jul 2020 23:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Timothy Collinson
(26 Jul 2020 10:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(25 Jul 2020 16:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(25 Jul 2020 20:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(25 Jul 2020 22:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(27 Jul 2020 13:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(27 Jul 2020 17:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(27 Jul 2020 18:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(27 Jul 2020 20:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Jeff Zeitlin
(27 Jul 2020 21:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(27 Jul 2020 21:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(28 Jul 2020 02:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(30 Jul 2020 09:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Jeff Zeitlin
(27 Jul 2020 20:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(27 Jul 2020 21:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Jeff Zeitlin
(27 Jul 2020 21:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(28 Jul 2020 02:11 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(28 Jul 2020 02:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(28 Jul 2020 02:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(28 Jul 2020 02:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(28 Jul 2020 15:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(30 Jul 2020 09:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Jeff Zeitlin
(30 Jul 2020 09:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(02 Aug 2020 11:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(02 Aug 2020 16:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Rupert Boleyn
(02 Aug 2020 22:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(03 Aug 2020 02:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Kelly St. Clair
(03 Aug 2020 02:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
James Davies
(03 Aug 2020 09:02 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Jeff Zeitlin
(02 Aug 2020 16:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Rupert Boleyn
(30 Jul 2020 10:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(30 Jul 2020 15:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(30 Jul 2020 15:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(30 Jul 2020 16:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(30 Jul 2020 17:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(30 Jul 2020 20:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(30 Jul 2020 21:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Kelly St. Clair
(30 Jul 2020 23:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(31 Jul 2020 02:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(31 Jul 2020 02:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Rupert Boleyn
(31 Jul 2020 06:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(31 Jul 2020 13:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Timothy Collinson
(30 Jul 2020 21:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(31 Jul 2020 02:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(31 Jul 2020 15:02 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(31 Jul 2020 21:54 UTC)
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OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(01 Aug 2020 15:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(01 Aug 2020 21:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(02 Aug 2020 00:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Alex Goodwin
(02 Aug 2020 06:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(02 Aug 2020 17:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(01 Aug 2020 17:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Ethan McKinney
(01 Aug 2020 18:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(01 Aug 2020 19:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(05 Aug 2020 10:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] OT: Board gaming - was Re: Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(05 Aug 2020 17:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Timothy Collinson
(07 Aug 2020 14:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(07 Aug 2020 16:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Timothy Collinson
(07 Aug 2020 18:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(08 Aug 2020 01:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(11 Aug 2020 07:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(11 Aug 2020 20:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Aug 2020 22:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(13 Aug 2020 22:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(14 Aug 2020 00:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(10 Aug 2020 09:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(10 Aug 2020 10:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(13 Aug 2020 06:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(13 Aug 2020 07:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(30 Jul 2020 03:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Jeff Zeitlin
(26 Jul 2020 00:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(26 Jul 2020 15:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Jeff Zeitlin
(26 Jul 2020 19:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(28 Jul 2020 21:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(17 Jul 2020 00:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Ethan McKinney
(16 Jul 2020 20:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Thomas RUX
(16 Jul 2020 21:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus
Phil Pugliese
(21 Jul 2020 14:59 UTC)
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On 13Jul2020 1625, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote: > Luminaries, > > Hark thee back to the various versions and sources and hear my query: > > Hast there been any version of Ye Olde (Or Less Olde) Rules in which > the mechanisms to do ship-to-ship refueling are covered from a design > perspective? FF&S (both the TNE and T4 versions) mention probe & drogue aircraft refuelling systems, but give no detail on how fast fuel can be transferred. There's nothing on ship-ship transfers so far as I know. For what it's worth, GURPS Spaceships lets you transfer 10% of a ship's fuel mass every 3 minutes (so all of it in 30 minutes). Note that this rate is based on the smaller value, so a tanker or battleship can't refuel a destroyer in next to no time (but could refuel many at once). > > HasT there been, yea verily, any scribblings that smell of the lamp > about safer storage of large amounts of fuel (for a tanker)? > > If not, and one wanted to design one of these, are there any other > proxies that might suggest the scale/power consumption/rate of > transfer, and so on? > > I am thinking a big fleet on the move might want to have tankers. > Given J-4 or more in some systems, the fuel use would be a fair bit as > would the jump engines. But you might be able to make up for that by > having a LOT of external fuel storage as well. > > This, forsooth, doth bring yet another query: Hast there been > declared, by powers most righteous, a limit upon the size of tanks > external and wonderous in Our sight? (I grasp that there likely are > rules defining the impacts on jump transit with these external tanks, > but I just wondered if there were any explicit rules like... oh.. > can't build an external tank more than 50% the size of your craft... > or some such) You can build them as big as you like. In systems like FF&S you have to build them with armour, supporting structures, stealth surfaces, etc., so a big tank for a high-performance military ship will cost a fair bit. -- Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>