On 7/5/2020 1:29 AM, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote: > Does anyone recall how long it took to charge the drive in Annic Nova? And how > close did you have to be to a sun if it was using solar radiation? One would > think being in the outer sysem would really slow that down.... (energy density > would be much less) > Collectors are described in the T5 rules (T5.10 book 2 p.56) The Collector is a specialized alternative Power Source. It slowly absorbs exotic particle energy and releases it in a burst which can fuel interstellar drives. A Collector is half internal mechanism and half external extendable canopy. One full charge provides the power requirement for a Jump Drive of equal Drive Potential. Collector table (T5.10 book 2 p.76), the collector is available at TL 14, with each TL advance giving a +1 to the collector drive potential. So a Jump-4 drive requires a Collector-4 to power The Drive Potential Table (T5.10 Book 2 p.77,78) give how the # of ton of collector converts to a drive potential. After about 150 Charges (perhaps six years of travelling), the Canopy needs to be replaced at a cost of MCr52.5, which is about Cr350,000 per Jump-2. Though, you know, The rules don't describe how long it takes to charge the collector. According to JTAS1 (p. 27), the charging time is 1D weeks. > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:38 PM Thomas RUX <xxxxxx@comcast.net > <mailto:xxxxxx@comcast.net>> wrote: > > __ > Hello Phil, > >> On 07/04/2020 5:20 PM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com >> <http://yahoo.com> (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com >> <mailto:xxxxxx@simplelists.com>> wrote: >> >> On Friday, July 3, 2020, 05:49:13 AM MST, Thomas RUX <xxxxxx@comcast.net >> <mailto:xxxxxx@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> Hello Phil, >>> On 07/02/2020 8:49 PM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com >>> <http://yahoo.com> (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com >>> <mailto:xxxxxx@simplelists.com>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:54:38 PM MST, Rupert Boleyn >>> <xxxxxx@gmail.com <mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> On 01Jul2020 1811, Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com >>> <http://yahoo.com> (via tml >>> list) wrote: >>> > It's not a question of YTU or MTU & I never, ever said that NO fuel is >>> > needed at all. >>> > >>> > The question is HOW MUCH fuel does a starship need to have avail AFTER >>> > it enters J-space. >>> > >>> > The whole idea of d-tanks indicates that it isn't very much at all. >>> > >>> > You seem to be saying that IF the capacitors were charged w/o using >>> > fuel, then it needs a full load of fuel in order to make a jump. >>> > OTOH, if the ship uses a whole lot of fuel before the jump then it >>> > doesn't need as much. >>> > >>> > It just doesn't make any sense to require the same amount of fuel in >>> > both instances. >>> Not so. If you take the LLB 2 1981 and HG view that jump drives need >>> power from the power plant, then the black globe charging the capacitors >>> replaces this power requirement. Therefore, it has nothing to do with >>> the jump fuel requirement, which remains the same no matter what. >>> Problem solved. >>> >>> -- >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Well that depends on exactly what the massive expenditure of L-Hyd just >>> before jumping accomplishes. >>> I believe most folks would say that what is accomplished is charging the >>> capacitors. >>> In that case the same amount of jump fuel would NOT be required. >>> Just like with the Annic Nova. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> The Annic Nova uses a solar radiation collector to charge accumulators, >> some sort of giant battery?, that acts as a power plant to charge the jump >> capacitors and make a jump. Upon arriving at the destination the solar >> collector begins to charge the accumulators again. Of course if there is >> enough charge in the accumulators the ship can jump immediately. >> >> Tom Rux >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Doesn't seem to need any L-Hyd at all, ISTR. >> And it is 'CANON(tm)'. >> I guess all the power to operate the ship comes from those collectors so >> it must be Ancient Tech, just like black globes. > Your are correct that there is only one design that does not use L-Hyd, > which does seem to indicate that it is either Ancient Tech or perhaps the > sophonts that built it did not get the memo that L-Hyd had to be used. > > The Express Boat is also canon which does not have a power plant to charge > the jump drive either, unless the power plant is built into the jump drive. > > Tom Rux > > ----- > The Traveller Mailing List > Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml > Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com > <mailto:xxxxxx@simplelists.com> > To unsubscribe from this list please go to > http://archives.simplelists.com > > ----- > The Traveller Mailing List > Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml > Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com > To unsubscribe from this list please go to > http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=QWmJ5KKpHa3MBU63jjs3knG6o9jLMkSu > -- Thomas Jones-Low Work: xxxxxx@softstart.com Home: xxxxxx@gmail.com