A small ship TU and a view of jump travel that creates it kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Jun 2020 00:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Kelly St. Clair (21 Jun 2020 00:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Kelly St. Clair (21 Jun 2020 02:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (21 Jun 2020 03:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Phil Pugliese (21 Jun 2020 19:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (21 Jun 2020 16:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (21 Jun 2020 17:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (22 Jun 2020 14:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (22 Jun 2020 18:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Thomas RUX (22 Jun 2020 22:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic James Catchpole (22 Jun 2020 22:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Thomas RUX (22 Jun 2020 23:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (23 Jun 2020 00:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Jun 2020 02:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (23 Jun 2020 01:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Vareck Bostrom (23 Jun 2020 01:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Jun 2020 03:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (23 Jun 2020 14:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Jun 2020 18:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Kelly St. Clair (23 Jun 2020 20:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (24 Jun 2020 01:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jun 2020 02:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (24 Jun 2020 02:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Kelly St. Clair (24 Jun 2020 04:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (24 Jun 2020 19:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jun 2020 07:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (24 Jun 2020 19:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jun 2020 21:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (25 Jun 2020 02:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic (was: A small ship TU and a view of jump travel that creates it) Thomas RUX (24 Jun 2020 03:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Rupert Boleyn (24 Jun 2020 04:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff Jonathan Clark (17 Jun 2020 01:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff Phil Pugliese (17 Jun 2020 01:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jun 2020 03:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff Thomas RUX (17 Jun 2020 12:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff Phil Pugliese (17 Jun 2020 15:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jun 2020 17:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jun 2020 07:46 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Engineering magic (was: A small ship TU and a view of jump travel that creates it) Thomas RUX 24 Jun 2020 03:25 UTC

Hello shadowgard,

In a program about Pompeii they showed several roads that had features that directed wagon traffic flow. IIRC there was small raised section with a channel in between next to the side of the road.

Tom Rux

> On 06/23/2020 7:21 PM shadow at shadowgard.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 20 Jun 2020 at 18:49, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:19 AM David Johnson <xxxxxx@zarthani.net
> > > wrote:
> >     Kelly St. Clair <xxxxxx@efn.org > wrote:
> >
> > I tried to find Rodenberry's Axiom, but Google and DuckDuckGo give me
> > blank stares.  
> >
> >     You had me at "no more consideration than 'what do I need to make
> >     this story work'" but, unfortunately, lost me at "engineers."
> >     Frederik Pohl--who Wikipedia says dropped out of Brooklyn
> >     Technical High at 17 and served as an air corps enlisted
> >     weatherman--had an interesting editorial about this sort of thing
> >     in ~Galaxy~ way back in 1968:
> >
> >     https://archive.org/stream/Galaxy_v27n05_1968-12_modified
> >
> >     I love the last bit about "a good science-fiction story" being
> >     "able to predict not the automobile but the traffic jam."
> >
> > To be fair though, if you don't sufficiently understand the
> > automobile, you can't predict the traffic jam.
>
> Actually the traffic jam didn't *need* to be predicted as they
> existed at least as far back as Rome (Rome had laws forbidding wagons
> and the like inside the city dost the day *because* they caused
> traffic jams)
>
> On the other hand Larry Niven *did* predict flash mobs...
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