A small ship TU and a view of jump travel that creates it kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Jun 2020 00:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] A small ship TU and a view of jump travel that creates it Rupert Boleyn (17 Jun 2020 02:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Kelly St. Clair (21 Jun 2020 00:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Kelly St. Clair (21 Jun 2020 02:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (21 Jun 2020 03:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Phil Pugliese (21 Jun 2020 19:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (21 Jun 2020 17:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (22 Jun 2020 18:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (23 Jun 2020 00:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Jun 2020 02:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (23 Jun 2020 01:11 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Jun 2020 03:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (23 Jun 2020 14:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Jun 2020 18:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Kelly St. Clair (23 Jun 2020 20:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (24 Jun 2020 01:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jun 2020 02:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (24 Jun 2020 02:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Kelly St. Clair (24 Jun 2020 04:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (24 Jun 2020 19:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jun 2020 07:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (24 Jun 2020 19:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jun 2020 21:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic David Johnson (25 Jun 2020 02:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Engineering magic Rupert Boleyn (24 Jun 2020 04:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff Jonathan Clark (17 Jun 2020 01:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff Phil Pugliese (17 Jun 2020 01:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jun 2020 03:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff Thomas RUX (17 Jun 2020 12:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff Phil Pugliese (17 Jun 2020 15:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jun 2020 17:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] A small ship TU and some other stuff kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jun 2020 07:46 UTC)

Re: [TML] A small ship TU and a view of jump travel that creates it Rupert Boleyn 17 Jun 2020 02:17 UTC


On 17Jun2020 1334, Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml
list) wrote:
> It really comes down to the question of, just what do you want?
>
> After all "the real world" doesn't allow anything like the TU unless
> one handwaves with both hands & feet and also his head!
>
> I prefer 'small ships' for commerce & big ones for the military.
>
> My 'handwave' is that the big ones are needed for military activities
> while the smaller ones are all that's needed for commerce as almost
> any system will have virtually infinite resources & once trade reaches
> a certain level enterprising locals &/or even the shipping outfits
> themselves will realize that it would be more efficient to produce
> things insystem.
For trade I assume that there are large ships around (and LASH setups
and so on), but they trade along set routes between major worlds.
Smaller ships provide trade elsewhere, and tramps like the PCs tend to
run fill the gaps and try to make a profit off speculative trade.

One thing to consider though - the Liberty ships of WWII carried 10,000
tons (officially - they often actually carried quite a bit more), which
means their holds were about 2,000 DTons in volume, and thus in CT even
with only J1 or J2 they'd be 3,000 DTon ships, large for Book 2 ships.
They weren't exceptionally large ships in WWII, and after WWII they were
rapidly out-grown.

To me that sets 2-3,000 DTons as a baseline for a reasonable sized
freighter for trade to and from a pop 7+ world with a decent port and TL.

--
Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>