MgT2 Low Berths kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 May 2020 07:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Timothy Collinson (28 May 2020 08:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Alex Goodwin (28 May 2020 08:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths shadow@xxxxxx (08 Jun 2020 04:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Greg Nokes (28 May 2020 08:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Jeff Zeitlin (28 May 2020 10:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Timothy Collinson (28 May 2020 10:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 May 2020 17:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Alex Goodwin (28 May 2020 17:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 May 2020 17:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Alex Goodwin (28 May 2020 18:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths kaladorn@xxxxxx (29 May 2020 05:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths shadow@xxxxxx (08 Jun 2020 04:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Rupert Boleyn (08 Jun 2020 04:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths kaladorn@xxxxxx (08 Jun 2020 05:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Kelly St. Clair (29 May 2020 02:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths kaladorn@xxxxxx (29 May 2020 05:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) David Johnson (29 May 2020 14:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (29 May 2020 16:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Phil Pugliese (29 May 2020 21:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (29 May 2020 21:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] People's Revolutionary Front (was: "Dark" Imperium?) Kelly St. Clair (29 May 2020 23:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] People's Revolutionary Front (was: "Dark" Imperium?) James Catchpole (29 May 2020 23:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] People's Revolutionary Front (was: "Dark" Imperium?) James Catchpole (30 May 2020 11:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) David Johnson (30 May 2020 03:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 May 2020 05:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) David Johnson (31 May 2020 04:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (31 May 2020 06:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) David Johnson (01 Jun 2020 00:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Phil Pugliese (01 Jun 2020 01:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Richard Aiken (01 Jun 2020 01:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Richard Aiken (01 Jun 2020 01:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (01 Jun 2020 02:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Phil Pugliese (02 Jun 2020 04:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (01 Jun 2020 02:36 UTC)
(missing)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) James Catchpole (01 Jun 2020 08:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Timothy Collinson (01 Jun 2020 08:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (01 Jun 2020 21:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) James Catchpole (01 Jun 2020 22:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Phil Pugliese (02 Jun 2020 11:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Timothy Collinson (02 Jun 2020 13:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (02 Jun 2020 16:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? Thomas Jones-Low (01 Jun 2020 21:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? James Catchpole (01 Jun 2020 22:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? Rupert Boleyn (02 Jun 2020 00:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? shadow@xxxxxx (08 Jun 2020 22:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? James Catchpole (08 Jun 2020 22:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? kaladorn@xxxxxx (08 Jun 2020 23:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? James Catchpole (08 Jun 2020 23:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) David Johnson (02 Jun 2020 02:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Phil Pugliese (02 Jun 2020 14:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (02 Jun 2020 16:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Richard Aiken (02 Jun 2020 17:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (02 Jun 2020 19:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Phil Pugliese (02 Jun 2020 21:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Richard Aiken (02 Jun 2020 22:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Phil Pugliese (02 Jun 2020 21:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (03 Jun 2020 04:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) James Catchpole (02 Jun 2020 22:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) Phil Pugliese (02 Jun 2020 22:17 UTC)
Yokel Noble (was: "Dark" Imperium?) David Johnson (03 Jun 2020 00:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble (was: "Dark" Imperium?) Richard Aiken (03 Jun 2020 01:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble (was: "Dark" Imperium?) Phil Pugliese (03 Jun 2020 02:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble (was: "Dark" Imperium?) kaladorn@xxxxxx (03 Jun 2020 04:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble (was: "Dark" Imperium?) Phil Pugliese (03 Jun 2020 08:56 UTC)
(missing)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Phil Pugliese (03 Jun 2020 19:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble kaladorn@xxxxxx (03 Jun 2020 21:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Rupert Boleyn (03 Jun 2020 23:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Phil Pugliese (04 Jun 2020 07:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Rupert Boleyn (04 Jun 2020 11:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Phil Pugliese (04 Jun 2020 15:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble kaladorn@xxxxxx (04 Jun 2020 15:34 UTC)
(missing)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble James Catchpole (04 Jun 2020 16:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble kaladorn@xxxxxx (04 Jun 2020 23:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Phil Pugliese (05 Jun 2020 02:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble kaladorn@xxxxxx (05 Jun 2020 04:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble James Catchpole (05 Jun 2020 08:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Timothy Collinson (05 Jun 2020 08:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Phil Pugliese (06 Jun 2020 00:08 UTC)
[TML] Yokel Noble Phil Pugliese (06 Jun 2020 00:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Rupert Boleyn (04 Jun 2020 16:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble kaladorn@xxxxxx (04 Jun 2020 16:31 UTC)
Basic vs Extended chargen (was Re: [TML] Yokel Noble) Jeff Zeitlin (04 Jun 2020 19:43 UTC)
Re: Basic vs Extended chargen (was Re: [TML] Yokel Noble) James Catchpole (04 Jun 2020 22:18 UTC)
Re: Basic vs Extended chargen (was Re: [TML] Yokel Noble) kaladorn@xxxxxx (05 Jun 2020 01:08 UTC)
Re: Basic vs Extended chargen (was Re: [TML] Yokel Noble) Rupert Boleyn (05 Jun 2020 04:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Rupert Boleyn (03 Jun 2020 09:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble Kelly St. Clair (03 Jun 2020 15:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Yokel Noble (was: "Dark" Imperium?) kaladorn@xxxxxx (03 Jun 2020 21:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? (was: MgT2 Low Berths) kaladorn@xxxxxx (03 Jun 2020 04:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? Rupert Boleyn (03 Jun 2020 06:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? kaladorn@xxxxxx (03 Jun 2020 20:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? Rupert Boleyn (03 Jun 2020 23:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] "Dark" Imperium? kaladorn@xxxxxx (04 Jun 2020 00:55 UTC)

Re: [TML] MgT2 Low Berths Rupert Boleyn 08 Jun 2020 04:55 UTC


On 08Jun2020 1647, shadow at shadowgard.com (via tml list) wrote:
> It helps to remember that "low berths" along with fast drug, slow
> drug and the low berth "lottery" were lifted direct from E C Tubb's
> "Dumarest" series.
I don't recall the lottery from them. The rest from them though.
> It's been a *long* time since I read any of the books, but I got the
> impression that they were more intended for shipping livestock than
> people. With livestock, if some don't make it, you just sell the
> frozen corpses to a butcher.
That was mentioned in the first book I think. It's not dwelt on in most
books (and Dumarest understandably avoids low passage as much as
possible), and in others is apparent that there are safer versions
around, though they aren't generally used on spaceships.
> Slow drug is named because it makes the world slow down from your
> perspective. Fast drug makes the world speed up so a week in jump is
> only hours.
In the Dumarest novels I get the impression it turns weeks into days -
the passengers using it still have enough perceived time aboard to need
diversions like socialising and gambling to pass the time. The crew who
mostly (the purser generally goes at 'high passage' speed so as to be
able to interact with the passengers) live at normal time (called
'middle passage') suffer much tedium and often turn to various vices.

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Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>