[TML] Lifting off from planets
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(06 May 2020 14:27 UTC)
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Cian Witherspoon
(06 May 2020 15:23 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(06 May 2020 15:29 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(06 May 2020 15:48 UTC)
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Christopher Sean Hilton
(06 May 2020 20:45 UTC)
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James Davies
(06 May 2020 21:10 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(06 May 2020 21:37 UTC)
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Ethan McKinney
(06 May 2020 22:08 UTC)
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Rupert Boleyn
(07 May 2020 00:00 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(07 May 2020 22:52 UTC)
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Ethan McKinney
(08 May 2020 18:40 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(08 May 2020 19:46 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(08 May 2020 20:44 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(08 May 2020 21:55 UTC)
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Rupert Boleyn
(08 May 2020 23:52 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(09 May 2020 02:15 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(09 May 2020 15:20 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(09 May 2020 22:18 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 May 2020 20:40 UTC)
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shadow@xxxxxx
(06 May 2020 20:28 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(09 May 2020 21:59 UTC)
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Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
shadow@xxxxxx
(10 May 2020 23:44 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
Richard Aiken
(11 May 2020 00:02 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(11 May 2020 17:43 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
Richard Aiken
(12 May 2020 01:16 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(12 May 2020 04:58 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
Graham Donald
(12 May 2020 06:07 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(12 May 2020 14:43 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
Graham Donald
(13 May 2020 01:25 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
shadow@xxxxxx
(13 May 2020 19:07 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
shadow@xxxxxx
(12 May 2020 20:53 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets)
Richard Aiken
(13 May 2020 04:56 UTC)
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James Davies
(08 May 2020 21:54 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(08 May 2020 21:57 UTC)
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James Davies
(08 May 2020 22:03 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(08 May 2020 23:30 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(09 May 2020 02:50 UTC)
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Christopher Sean Hilton
(12 May 2020 17:02 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(12 May 2020 17:30 UTC)
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Ethan McKinney
(12 May 2020 18:10 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(12 May 2020 18:13 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(14 May 2020 03:00 UTC)
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shadow@xxxxxx
(13 May 2020 19:07 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(12 May 2020 18:31 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(12 May 2020 18:28 UTC)
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shadow@xxxxxx
(13 May 2020 19:07 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(08 May 2020 22:03 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(09 May 2020 22:23 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(09 May 2020 22:31 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(09 May 2020 22:40 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(09 May 2020 22:59 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(09 May 2020 23:43 UTC)
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Vareck Bostrom
(09 May 2020 23:51 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(10 May 2020 00:06 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(10 May 2020 21:24 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(10 May 2020 23:43 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(11 May 2020 03:16 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(11 May 2020 03:43 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(11 May 2020 17:37 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(12 May 2020 01:41 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(12 May 2020 05:01 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(12 May 2020 05:36 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(09 May 2020 23:01 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(09 May 2020 23:37 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets shadow@xxxxxx (10 May 2020 23:44 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(10 May 2020 23:56 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(11 May 2020 17:46 UTC)
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shadow@xxxxxx
(12 May 2020 20:53 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(13 May 2020 15:13 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(11 May 2020 17:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets
shadow@xxxxxx
(10 May 2020 23:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets
Richard Aiken
(10 May 2020 23:48 UTC)
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Unless the air-raft has a pressurized cabin, you *can't* use it for a trip into space that lasts more than a day. and that would be one *miserable* day. There's the not so small matter of waste management. Urine is easy, especially you are male. If you are female, it's still doable, just less comfortable. But "Fecal Material" has no good solution until you get something along the lines of "nanites". Untuil then the *only* solution is essentially a diaper. In fact, disposable diapers are a spin-off of the Apollo program! Sitting in your own $#!+ for days is a non-starter. A pressurized cabin lets you avoid *that* problem. But for interplantary travel, the real show stopper is radiation. If there's a solar flare, everybody in the air raft is *dead*. If not immediately, then within hours. Very unpleasant hours. And even "normal" radiation levels in interplanetary space aren't good. Ships and "small craft" have shielding against this. Air rafts don't. Oh yeah, you'll need that shielding if you are in the Van allen belt equicvalent of a planet for an prolonged period. And you'll *definitely need it when scooping fuel from a gas giant. The radiation belts around Jupiter are lerthal as far out as Europa, maybe farther (Ryk Spoor had to do a lot of work to let some characters survive after a forced landing on Europa in one of his books) -- Leonard Erickson (aka shadow) shadow at shadowgard dot com