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Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Christopher Sean Hilton (06 May 2020 20:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets James Davies (06 May 2020 21:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (06 May 2020 21:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Ethan McKinney (06 May 2020 22:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Rupert Boleyn (07 May 2020 00:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Phil Pugliese (07 May 2020 22:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Ethan McKinney (08 May 2020 18:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Phil Pugliese (08 May 2020 19:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (08 May 2020 20:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets James Davies (08 May 2020 21:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (08 May 2020 21:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets James Davies (08 May 2020 22:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (08 May 2020 23:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (09 May 2020 02:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Christopher Sean Hilton (12 May 2020 17:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (12 May 2020 17:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Ethan McKinney (12 May 2020 18:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (12 May 2020 18:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (14 May 2020 03:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets shadow@xxxxxx (13 May 2020 19:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (12 May 2020 18:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (12 May 2020 18:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (08 May 2020 22:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (09 May 2020 22:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (09 May 2020 22:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (09 May 2020 22:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (09 May 2020 22:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (09 May 2020 23:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (09 May 2020 23:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (10 May 2020 00:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (10 May 2020 21:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (10 May 2020 23:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Phil Pugliese (11 May 2020 03:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (11 May 2020 03:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 May 2020 17:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (12 May 2020 01:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (12 May 2020 05:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (12 May 2020 05:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets shadow@xxxxxx (10 May 2020 23:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (10 May 2020 23:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (08 May 2020 21:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Rupert Boleyn (08 May 2020 23:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (09 May 2020 02:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Vareck Bostrom (09 May 2020 15:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (09 May 2020 22:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Jeffrey Schwartz (12 May 2020 20:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets shadow@xxxxxx (06 May 2020 20:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (09 May 2020 21:59 UTC)
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Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) Richard Aiken (11 May 2020 00:02 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 May 2020 17:43 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) Richard Aiken (12 May 2020 01:16 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) kaladorn@xxxxxx (12 May 2020 04:58 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) Graham Donald (12 May 2020 06:07 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) kaladorn@xxxxxx (12 May 2020 14:43 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) Graham Donald (13 May 2020 01:25 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) shadow@xxxxxx (13 May 2020 19:07 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) shadow@xxxxxx (12 May 2020 20:53 UTC)
Re: Nuclear excavation (Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets) Richard Aiken (13 May 2020 04:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (09 May 2020 23:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (09 May 2020 23:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets shadow@xxxxxx (10 May 2020 23:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Richard Aiken (10 May 2020 23:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 May 2020 17:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets shadow@xxxxxx (12 May 2020 20:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (13 May 2020 15:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 May 2020 17:56 UTC)

Re: [TML] Lifting off from planets Rupert Boleyn 08 May 2020 23:52 UTC


On 09May2020 0844, Vareck Bostrom wrote:
> Which might have resulted from a misunderstanding of what "orbit" is.
> The car can lift itself to orbital distance but not attain orbital
> velocity and just fall back down again.
It was given as taking a number of hours equal to the world's size
number (so 8 hours for Earth, for example). If you do the numbers, even
a quite weak thruster (under 0.1G) can get you to LEO velocity in that
time if it can thrust continuously. So an air/raft would totally be able
to climb to an altitude where the air was thin enough to allow very high
speeds, which would take about an hour at an air/raft's 100 km/h cruise
speed, and then start thrusting horizontally to build speed.

Now, getting where you wanted, on the orbit you wanted is a whole other
issue, and the air/raft clearly wasn't set up with the electronics for
that, and nor were the space suits of the LBBs. So, either you did some
careful claculations before you left and followed them very closely, or
you brought along a good set of navigational instruments and tables etc.
(if on a computer, I hope it's vacuum rated), or you bring a good radio
and have friends up in orbit with a spaceship who can come and get you.
Alternatively, I hope you have another 8+ hours of air, so you can
breathe until you get down again.

--
Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>