Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
Alex Goodwin
(03 May 2020 17:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
Timothy Collinson
(03 May 2020 21:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
Phil Pugliese
(03 May 2020 22:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
Jeff Zeitlin
(03 May 2020 23:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
Alex Goodwin
(04 May 2020 07:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(04 May 2020 08:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
Bruce Johnson
(07 May 2020 21:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
Phil Pugliese
(07 May 2020 22:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator / beanstalk costs
shadow@xxxxxx
(05 May 2020 03:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator /beanstalkcosts Jonathan Clark (06 May 2020 01:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator /beanstalkcosts
Rupert Boleyn
(06 May 2020 03:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator /beanstalkcosts
Kelly St. Clair
(06 May 2020 04:46 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator /beanstalkcosts
Alex Goodwin
(06 May 2020 05:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Orbital elevator /beanstalkcosts
Kelly St. Clair
(06 May 2020 08:52 UTC)
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xxxxxx@shadowgard.com wrote: > Beanstalks have problems too. Like what happens if they fail, and > limits on how much up/down traffic they can support. You can get around some of the safety issues by having an engineered breakpoint at (say) 100 km altitude. If the thing breaks there then it will fall right along the planetary spin axis so you only need a safety zone 100km long and a few km wide. There are plenty of places even on Earth which you could use. Hawaii? Traffic capacity is handled by having lots of separate cables and using self-powered crawlers on them. But... > Frankly, given Traveller tech, good old anti-gravity will do just > fine. Think along the lines of a huge tanker or container ship that > just shuttles between ground and orbit. Fundamentally, I agree. A beanstalk is a show-off project, *unless* you want to posit reasons to limit orbital grav traffic. Engine noise. Objections of the local population to sonic booms every day and night. A desire to not have very large ships (which do occasionally fall out of the sky) cruising around overhead. So *much* atmospheric grav traffic that it's hard to carve out ground-to-orbit (and back) corridors. Psycho-social or religious issues. And so on. Jonathan