[TML]Chemistry Question
Richard Aiken
(02 May 2014 04:36 UTC)
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Tim
(02 May 2014 06:40 UTC)
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Knapp
(02 May 2014 06:44 UTC)
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Tim
(02 May 2014 07:37 UTC)
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Knapp
(02 May 2014 18:11 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(04 May 2014 06:02 UTC)
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Tim
(04 May 2014 06:57 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(04 May 2014 14:31 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(05 May 2014 04:24 UTC)
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shadow@xxxxxx
(05 May 2014 09:45 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(05 May 2014 16:48 UTC)
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Anthony Jackson
(06 May 2014 21:11 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(08 May 2014 04:05 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(08 May 2014 04:07 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(08 May 2014 04:10 UTC)
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Knapp
(08 May 2014 05:30 UTC)
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Knapp
(06 May 2014 20:53 UTC)
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Tim
(08 May 2014 06:43 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(08 May 2014 08:14 UTC)
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Tim
(08 May 2014 15:17 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(08 May 2014 16:01 UTC)
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shadow@xxxxxx
(09 May 2014 08:48 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(09 May 2014 09:21 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(09 May 2014 23:38 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(09 May 2014 14:47 UTC)
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Tim
(09 May 2014 15:51 UTC)
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Knapp
(09 May 2014 20:54 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(09 May 2014 21:50 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(09 May 2014 23:09 UTC)
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Tim
(10 May 2014 07:32 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(10 May 2014 17:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML]ChemistryQuestion Rob O'Connor (10 May 2014 08:45 UTC)
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Knapp
(10 May 2014 21:13 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(10 May 2014 22:04 UTC)
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Tim
(11 May 2014 04:40 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(11 May 2014 06:22 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(11 May 2014 15:57 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(12 May 2014 19:04 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(12 May 2014 19:13 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(12 May 2014 20:52 UTC)
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Knapp
(12 May 2014 21:32 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(12 May 2014 22:21 UTC)
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youngerpliny@xxxxxx
(12 May 2014 21:41 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(11 May 2014 06:47 UTC)
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Rob O'Connor
(12 May 2014 08:48 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(12 May 2014 19:32 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(12 May 2014 20:49 UTC)
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Tim
(13 May 2014 00:22 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(14 May 2014 02:45 UTC)
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Tim
(14 May 2014 03:53 UTC)
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Tim
(14 May 2014 04:20 UTC)
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Kelly St. Clair
(14 May 2014 06:11 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(14 May 2014 17:37 UTC)
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Knapp
(14 May 2014 18:00 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(14 May 2014 18:51 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(14 May 2014 19:09 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(14 May 2014 20:20 UTC)
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Knapp
(14 May 2014 20:35 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(15 May 2014 03:51 UTC)
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Knapp
(15 May 2014 05:33 UTC)
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Tim
(15 May 2014 07:44 UTC)
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Grey Goo (Was: ChemistryQuestion)
Mikko Parviainen
(15 May 2014 08:39 UTC)
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Tim
(15 May 2014 11:38 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(16 May 2014 06:20 UTC)
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Anthony Jackson
(16 May 2014 16:29 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(20 May 2014 06:28 UTC)
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Knapp
(20 May 2014 17:55 UTC)
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Anthony Jackson
(20 May 2014 18:32 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(21 May 2014 08:14 UTC)
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Tim
(21 May 2014 13:05 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(23 May 2014 08:09 UTC)
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Anthony Jackson
(14 May 2014 20:44 UTC)
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Anthony Jackson
(14 May 2014 20:52 UTC)
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Tim Little wrote: > With all the jokes about K'kree burgers, the > serious question remains of just how different the biospheres of > different planets in Traveller are at the biochemical level. If Universal World Profiles are truly representative of all habitable planets, not all that much. If you can walk around in shirtsleeves and eat local produce without dying from anaphylaxis or overwhelming infections in short order - or the native life doesn't experience similar unpleasantness when dealing with your shed skin, hair, bacteria, etc. then there's not a lot of biochemical difference. > Were there distributions of life between the stars, say a billion or > two years ago? Is the Orion Arm reasonably homogenous from a chemical perspective? Maybe Earthly style biochemistry is the easiest to form given the available ingredients. > Also what are the chances that a transition to a completely different > universe so variant from our own that lightspeed doesn't even apply, > happens to be survivable by fragile chemical meatbags in their > natural state? Did Grandfather create jump space, or did he just find it and figure out how part of how it worked? Knapp wrote: > I always wonder just how diverse humans would be after a dark night of say 1000 years. I agree with Bruce Johnson - without intervention 1000 years isn't long enough. 50-60 human generations with pessimistic mutation rates far in excess of the ~70 per generation average[1] won't cut it. With regard to the beginning of this thread - the only way I can reconcile the concept of a carbon-silicone biochemical transition is something like this: Some rare worlds have two biochemistries develop in parallel, rather than one type filling all available niches early in a world's history. So the silicone-based life interacts sporadically with the carbon-based stuff e.g. silicone stuff is based underground, and quakes or volcanism allow contact with surface or ocean dwelling carbon-based life. The real evolutionary action is evident at the level of micro-organisms - both in diversity and speed. Multicellular life forms either develop symbiotic relationships, or die off from crippling autoimmune complications as a host tries to eject an intruder... Rob O'Connor [1]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22345605