Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Carlos (02 May 2014 11:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Andrew Staples (02 May 2014 17:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Andrew Long (02 May 2014 18:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Timothy Collinson (04 May 2014 20:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (04 May 2014 22:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Bruce Johnson (05 May 2014 21:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Freelance Traveller (06 May 2014 14:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (06 May 2014 20:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Kenneth Barns (05 May 2014 22:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Bruce Johnson (02 May 2014 18:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 19:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Kelly St. Clair (02 May 2014 20:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Bruce Johnson (02 May 2014 20:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 22:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 22:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Timothy Collinson (02 May 2014 21:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Bruce Johnson (02 May 2014 22:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 22:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (03 May 2014 16:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (03 May 2014 17:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Ian Whitchurch (03 May 2014 22:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Timothy Collinson (03 May 2014 19:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 22:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Richard Aiken (04 May 2014 06:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Timothy Collinson (02 May 2014 19:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 22:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Ros Knox & Michael Barry (03 May 2014 08:43 UTC)

Re: [TML] Rules for fleshing out balkanized worlds? Bruce Johnson 02 May 2014 20:18 UTC

On May 2, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <nobody@simplelists.com> wrote:

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> I recall reading one of Asimov's 'later' books about his Galactic Empire (it was the one where he describes the capital, Trantor.
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> It was set in the time where Hari Seldon first came to Trantor & the planet seemed to me to be highly 'balkanized'.
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> Since then I've always leaned towards the idea that hi-pop worlds in the TU were effectively 'balkanized' w/ various federative, autonomous, etc, regions, similar to the way a lot of nations here on earth have 'reservations', 'preserves' or other areas where one could easily feel as if he were in a different country altogether.

Why? The fundamental issue here is why do worlds have one government? There’s a vast difference between ‘reservations’ and ‘preserves’ on the one hand, and actual sovereign states on the other.

Part of it is the ‘humans in rubber faces aliens' kind of syndrome that pervades SF. It’s a convenient, lazy shorthand to view each world as some monolithic stereotype instead of entire worlds with as varied ecosystems as Earth. ‘A desert world’, ‘Agricultural world’, etc.

Each of these worlds are places where billions and billions of people have lived out their lives as fully as anyone on Earth ever has, for thousands of generations. There have been other worlds settled by the Vilani for as long as humans have had agriculture; they have their own Venice’s and Pryamids of Giza, etc.

To bring it back to Carlos’ question, perhaps ‘Balkanized’ merely refers to the major powers, or the fact that there are Imperial Starports in four or five major countries, each with different Gov/Law/TL’s…and ALL planets are an amagamation of a bunch of different political entities.

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