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Joseph Paul
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Peter Berghold
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Joseph Paul
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Greg Nokes
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Knapp
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Eris Reddoch
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Freelance Traveller
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Andrew Long
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Bruce Johnson
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Knapp
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Phil Pugliese
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Knapp
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Timothy Collinson
(02 May 2014 21:44 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
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Ros Knox & Michael Barry
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Timothy Collinson
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Knapp
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Phil Pugliese
(04 May 2014 17:46 UTC)
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'Citizens of the Imperium' and 'Traveller Wiki' websites
Hemdian
(04 May 2014 17:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] 'Citizens of the Imperium' and 'Traveller Wiki' websites
Richard Aiken
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Knapp
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Carlos
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Phil Pugliese
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Bruce Johnson
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shadow@xxxxxx
(02 May 2014 01:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Tim (02 May 2014 06:01 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(02 May 2014 10:11 UTC)
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Carlos
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Timothy Collinson
(02 May 2014 19:23 UTC)
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shadow@xxxxxx
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Ros Knox & Michael Barry
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Phil Pugliese
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Carlos
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Phil Pugliese
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shadow@xxxxxx
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Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon...
Richard Aiken
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Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon...
Richard Aiken
(02 May 2014 06:22 UTC)
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On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 06:51:18PM -0400, Freelance Traveller wrote: > Where the local astronomical year doesn't match up with the Imperial > year, a local calendar may be considered more important than the > Imperial one Yes, and that's going to be true essentially everywhere. The chance of any planet having exactly the same day and year length as any particular standard will be negligible. Even with the possibility of mega-engineering projects, the energy of rotation for a whole planet is astronomical. (Much more so for altering the orbit) > Local timekeeping may persist, too, as a better fit than the > Standard Imperial Clock - for example, rather than adding a 37-odd > minute "comp" to the day if I were on a resource-independent Mars, > I'd simply make my seconds about three percent longer The problem there is that seconds are a fundamental unit used in a lot more than just human clocks and calendars. Adjust Martian hours or minutes if you like (and live with the unintended consequences), but altering seconds would be a horribly bad idea. Alternatively, at the very least call them something totally different and impossible to confuse with seconds. Of course, Mars is a remarkable case in being so close to Earth in average day length. Most planets should have very different day lengths, e.g. between 8 hours and hundreds of Earth days. Year lengths will mostly depend upon the class of star they orbit, about 20 to 2000 days with most habitable worlds likely having shorter year than Earth's. So yes: the Imperial Calendar will generally have no relation whatever to local planetary time periods. As a counterpoint: most planets will have little relation to human sleep/wake cycles, while the standard calendar will be pretty close. I think I could make a case that people in a technological society (with artificial lighting and housing) could adapt much more easily to being out of sync with local day and night, than to sleeping on an 83-hour local cycle. Similarly for years. A lot of planets aren't going to have significant seasons anyway, and of the rest many won't be shirt-sleeve habitable enough for it to make a difference (check a lot of those UWPs!) Some jobs may need to take local seasons into account, but nowhere near as many as on ancient Earth, and the seasons are still easily predictable in advance without having to line each of their days up with the same local label. So perhaps the standard calendar would see local applicability on a wider range of planets than first thought might indicate. - Tim