RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(05 Nov 2019 22:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(06 Nov 2019 01:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(06 Nov 2019 03:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(06 Nov 2019 05:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(06 Nov 2019 15:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Ethan McKinney
(06 Nov 2019 19:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Nov 2019 15:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(07 Nov 2019 16:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Nov 2019 22:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(08 Nov 2019 06:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (08 Nov 2019 16:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(06 Nov 2019 19:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Nov 2019 22:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(08 Nov 2019 05:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(08 Nov 2019 16:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(08 Nov 2019 18:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(08 Nov 2019 23:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(09 Nov 2019 00:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(09 Nov 2019 21:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(10 Nov 2019 18:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Nov 2019 00:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Nov 2019 02:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Nov 2019 19:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Nov 2019 10:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Nov 2019 14:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(12 Nov 2019 03:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(12 Nov 2019 20:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(12 Nov 2019 23:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(13 Nov 2019 19:02 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(13 Nov 2019 23:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(13 Nov 2019 00:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(13 Nov 2019 19:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Nov 2019 19:46 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(10 Nov 2019 20:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(10 Nov 2019 19:13 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Nov 2019 04:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Nov 2019 10:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Nov 2019 14:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Nov 2019 15:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Nov 2019 15:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Nov 2019 18:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Nov 2019 19:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Bruce Johnson
(15 Nov 2019 22:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(16 Nov 2019 16:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(16 Nov 2019 18:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(16 Nov 2019 20:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(17 Nov 2019 01:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(17 Nov 2019 03:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(17 Nov 2019 05:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(19 Nov 2019 01:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(19 Nov 2019 06:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(19 Nov 2019 01:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(19 Nov 2019 01:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(19 Nov 2019 06:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(19 Nov 2019 07:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(19 Nov 2019 09:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(19 Nov 2019 23:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(20 Nov 2019 17:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(20 Nov 2019 18:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(20 Nov 2019 19:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(20 Nov 2019 23:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(21 Nov 2019 17:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Kelly St. Clair
(21 Nov 2019 19:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(21 Nov 2019 22:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Jeff Zeitlin
(21 Nov 2019 23:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(22 Nov 2019 00:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(22 Nov 2019 04:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(22 Nov 2019 14:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Nov 2019 15:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(08 Nov 2019 23:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(09 Nov 2019 01:47 UTC)
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Hello Rupert, > On November 7, 2019 at 10:07 PM Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 08Nov2019 1147, Thomas RUX wrote: > > > Here is the details for the Generate program from CT LBB 2 Starships > > 1977 7th printing page 32: > > > > "The navigator or pilot can input specific coordinates into the > > computer concerning a destination, and the generate program will > > create a flight plan to take the ship there. In cases where a > > generate program is not available, starports have single-use flight > > plans (in self-erasing cassettes) available for all worlds within > > jump range , and for which space lanes exist (see Book 3)." > > > > Pages 32-33 "Navigation: Flight plans must be fed into the navigation > > program, which then interfaces with the jump program to actually take > > a ship ti its destination. To actually make a jump, both the jump and > > navigation programs must be functioning in the computer (the > > generate program need only run long enough to actually create the > > flight plan)." > > > > Based on being able to get a self-erasing single-use flight plan > > cassette from a starport suggests that the generate program is used > > before a ship leaves port heading to the out bound jump point at the > > 100-D limit. > > > > In the Navigation program details of "(the generate program need only > > run long enough to actually create the flight plan)." also suggests > > that the generate program can be run at any time before making a > > jump. > > > > Of course I could once again be out-to-lunch in my interpretation of > > the text. > > The single-use tapes cost Cr10,000/jump number (according to the '81 > edition), a not-inconsiderable amount, and are only available for routes > along space lanes (in the '77 edition), which suggests to me that > they're reliant on a lot of processing power and a very well-mapped > path, which would give them some flexibility in timing. Generate can be > run on a model-1 computer, can calculate a jump up to j-6, and doesn't > need a space lane. That suggests to me that it's likely to be a far more > limited course in other ways, such as the time and place you jump from. > There's nothing much one way or the other in the text, I think. In my opinion the starport's computer is going to be running the generate program to create the flight plan and then write it to the single-use cassette based on the parameters provided by the ship's navigator and/or pilot buying the cassette. The big difference is that the starport's computer has access to the coordinates of most if not all of the systems within 6 parsecs while a ship's computer keeps on hand the coordinates of the systems with in the maximum range of their jump drive. > In passing I notice that the '81 edition's computer record sheet still > has the '77 program sizes and prices, and the example combat ship record > sheet has a '77 version of the Type-S, with the too-small model/1 computer. I noticed the same issue with CT LBB 2 1977/1981 computer record sheet when I was creating a spreadsheet of TAS FORM 3 (Reverse) and compared them with the Computer Software List. CT Supplement 12 page 17 has corrected computer record sheet. I have to admit to have missed the computer model number error unti you mentioned it and I also discovered that Donald McKinney's Consolidated CT Errata v 1.1 (02/01/14) does not appear to have this bit of errata either. Thank you for you comments. Tom Rux