Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(06 Oct 2019 18:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Catherine Berry
(06 Oct 2019 18:37 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(06 Oct 2019 21:47 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(07 Oct 2019 03:04 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(07 Oct 2019 18:50 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(07 Oct 2019 23:01 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(08 Oct 2019 18:09 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(08 Oct 2019 19:15 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(09 Oct 2019 10:51 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(09 Oct 2019 19:03 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(10 Oct 2019 00:04 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(10 Oct 2019 03:54 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(10 Oct 2019 11:12 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(10 Oct 2019 13:59 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(10 Oct 2019 19:15 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(10 Oct 2019 20:03 UTC)
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Cian Witherspoon
(10 Oct 2019 20:33 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(10 Oct 2019 20:38 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(11 Oct 2019 00:57 UTC)
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Rupert Boleyn
(11 Oct 2019 06:37 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 12:51 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(10 Oct 2019 12:22 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(10 Oct 2019 13:31 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(10 Oct 2019 14:54 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(10 Oct 2019 19:07 UTC)
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Cian Witherspoon
(10 Oct 2019 19:52 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(10 Oct 2019 20:32 UTC)
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Cian Witherspoon
(10 Oct 2019 20:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(10 Oct 2019 20:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Oct 2019 01:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (11 Oct 2019 06:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 12:44 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 14:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Oct 2019 21:20 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 15:06 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 16:20 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(11 Oct 2019 16:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Oct 2019 20:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Oct 2019 21:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 22:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 19:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Oct 2019 21:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Oct 2019 00:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 03:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Oct 2019 11:01 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 13:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Oct 2019 16:27 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 19:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Oct 2019 21:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Cian Witherspoon
(11 Oct 2019 17:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 20:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(11 Oct 2019 20:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(11 Oct 2019 21:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 22:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(13 Oct 2019 16:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Greg Nokes
(15 Oct 2019 04:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(11 Oct 2019 22:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Cian Witherspoon
(11 Oct 2019 23:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(12 Oct 2019 01:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(12 Oct 2019 01:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Cian Witherspoon
(12 Oct 2019 02:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(12 Oct 2019 16:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(13 Oct 2019 17:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(14 Oct 2019 13:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Greg Nokes
(15 Oct 2019 03:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(15 Oct 2019 13:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Ewan
(16 Oct 2019 12:15 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(16 Oct 2019 14:03 UTC)
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Peter Vernon
(16 Oct 2019 19:56 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(16 Oct 2019 20:41 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(17 Oct 2019 04:45 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(17 Oct 2019 05:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Richard Aiken
(17 Oct 2019 07:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(17 Oct 2019 14:14 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(17 Oct 2019 20:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(17 Oct 2019 21:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(30 Oct 2019 22:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(13 Oct 2019 17:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
James Catchpole
(06 Oct 2019 18:38 UTC)
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James Catchpole
(06 Oct 2019 18:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(06 Oct 2019 22:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
James Catchpole
(06 Oct 2019 23:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(06 Oct 2019 22:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(06 Oct 2019 18:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Cian Witherspoon
(06 Oct 2019 19:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Ethan McKinney
(06 Oct 2019 19:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Cian Witherspoon
(06 Oct 2019 21:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Oct 2019 17:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Catherine Berry
(06 Oct 2019 21:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(07 Oct 2019 02:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Oct 2019 05:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(06 Oct 2019 23:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Cian Witherspoon
(07 Oct 2019 00:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Catherine Berry
(07 Oct 2019 17:05 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Oct 2019 18:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Catherine Berry
(07 Oct 2019 18:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(08 Oct 2019 09:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(08 Oct 2019 15:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(08 Oct 2019 15:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Hubert Figuière
(09 Oct 2019 01:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(09 Oct 2019 02:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Catherine Berry
(08 Oct 2019 18:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(08 Oct 2019 21:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Phil Pugliese
(09 Oct 2019 11:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(09 Oct 2019 19:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Bill Rutherford
(07 Oct 2019 23:36 UTC)
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[TML] *Another* Jump Drive Question
Bill Rutherford
(07 Oct 2019 01:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Oct 2019 14:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Oct 2019 04:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Cian Witherspoon
(07 Oct 2019 05:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Oct 2019 06:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(06 Oct 2019 22:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Rupert Boleyn
(06 Oct 2019 22:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question
Thomas RUX
(07 Oct 2019 05:52 UTC)
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On 11Oct2019 0852, Cian Witherspoon wrote: > The first available drive that provide J4 capability in a 600 ton hull is > the model M. In a 400 ton hull, the same model M provides J6. Fuel usage is > the 240 tons required for J6 at 400 tons. Just think of it this way, which > is implied by the table: each higher letter drive outputs a certain amount > of jump power, which is divided by the tonnage of the ship to provide a > jump range, and j6 is the maximum survivable. > Now, in modern canon, the actual ability depends on what TL the drive was > manufactured at, but that’s just MT onwards. Not so. It's no later than High Guard, 2nd edition (so late 1980). It has a little table , the "Drive Tech Level Table": --Drive Number-- 1 2 3 4 5 6 Maneuver 7 7 8 8 8 9 Jump 9 11 12 13 14 15 Of course this was never back-ported into new editions of Book 1-3. Jump range is also given as being limited by computer size, and that's limited by TL as well, but not in such a way that computer TL limits affect jump limits. As for CT Book 2 starships, remember that the engineering section can be any fraction of the ship's size, unless you're using a standard hull, in which case it's limited to the listed sizes. Computer TL limits jump size, and thus there is a TL limit, but it's not that at which the drive is manufactured. Going back to the original question about the Gazelle, at 300/400 Dtons and looking at the tables for drives (I'm using /The Traveller Book/, so the results might be different with other editions), a 300 DTon hull isn't listed and so uses the same size drives as a the next bigger - the 400 DTon hull. Thus to get a J5 at 300 DTons we need a 'K' Jump Drive and Power Plant, also enough to give J5 at the full 400 DTons. However, the rules for fuel consumption use actual hull size, and say that 300 DT and J5 needs 0.1 x 300 x 5 = 150 DTons, while 400 DT and J4 requires 0.1 x 400 x 4 = 160 DTons. Thus with 100 DT drop tanks and 60 DTons of onboard jump fuel the Gazelle can do J4 with tanks, J5 with the tanks' fuel but jettisoning the tanks (with 10 DT left over), and J2 from internal fuel with no tanks. -- Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com> Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief