I Still Need A Term... Jeff Zeitlin (17 Mar 2019 01:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] I Still Need A Term...
Alan Peery
(17 Mar 2019 14:13 UTC)
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Re: [TML] I Still Need A Term...
Phil Pugliese
(17 Mar 2019 19:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] I Still Need A Term...
shadow@xxxxxx
(30 Mar 2019 04:26 UTC)
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Warning: _Long_ post. Back about a year ago, I'd written: >I need a term for a person who is in the belowdescribed relationship with a >scion of a noble or wealthy-and-socially-prominent line: >["the person" below refers to the person for whom I am seeking a term. >"the scion" is the individual of noble blood who is the 'principal' in >the relationship] >When the scion is young, and perhaps still in school (even before >majority), the person serves as a bodyguard, advisor, and tutor, but >most of the learning that the person imparts is that of experience, >rather than pure academics - he will allow his charge to get into >trouble, and then *assist* him in getting back out, while explaining >how the trouble came about and how it could have been avoided. >Bodyguarding is not protecting him from *all* harm, but from threats >that could impact the Family - if the scion provokes a bully, the >person will not prevent the scion from having to take his lumps - but >will tend any wounds afterward, and will offer to teach self-defense >and non-provocation (where appropriate). >As the scion gets older and more mature, the person will continue in >all the roles described, but shifting more toward an advisor role, and >gradually adding the role of 'facilitator' - when the scion moves to >do something that this person sees as beneficial to the Family, he >will do what he can - subtly - to promote the activity and elicit >cooperation from others. In the advisory role, even if the scion is >proposing to do "the right thing", whether by ethics, morals, Family >benefit, etc., the person may argue against it, to get the person to >clearly realize his own reasons for doing/proposing it. >It is likely that the scion will come to view the person as a >'friend', though never as a 'lackey' - even though the scion has the >'social advantage' (i.e., higher status), the nonpublic relationship >is far more equal, and quite often, the scion will specifically turn >to the person for advice. Equally, the person will involved with the >hiring of the scion's personal staff, and will often guide new staff >members in their understanding and response to the business/social >needs of the scion. >[For those of you who have read the Jao Empire series by Eric Flint, >K.D.Wentworth, and David Carrico, the Jao word for the role is >'fraghta'. I want to more-or-less have this role available in a >generic Traveller universe - but I don't want to use the Jao word for >it; I'd like a human word. In any language.] Several terms were proposed, none of which were _quite_ what I was looking for; I'd commented on them as follows: >I'm going to take this opportunity to discuss - briefly - the problems >I see with many other suggestions. In general, the suggestions tended >to have meanings or associations that were too specific in some way: >Sensei - In general, a 'sensei' is perceived as a trainer in what > are commonly called "martial arts", and specifically the > "oriental" subset: judo, karate, aikido, jiu-jitsu, and > the like. The general advisor role, and the facilitator > role, are definitely well outside the normal perception > attached to the word 'sensei'. >Swordmaster - Without having encountered this term previously, a quick > google argues against this as being appropriate for the > role as described, for essentially the same reasons as > 'sensei' - the focus is on the combat training, and this > is _not_ what the Jao /fraghta/'s principal role is, > though they may take it on early in the Jao > "principal's" life. >Mentor - probably the best suggestion so far, but doesn't "feel" > right; the public part of the relationship has the > /fraghta/ being "part of the 'principal's' staff", or > maybe 'chief of staff', and I just don't see a "mentor" > being in that role - the opposite would be more likely, > I would think - that is, the 'principal' is the mentor's > chief of staff as his last "relationship" before they > separate and the 'principal' goes on his own. >"Jeeves", Valet, "Gentleman's Gentleman" - Different ways, more or > less, of saying the same thing. Almost works, > conceptually, except that the /fraghta/ isn't really a > personal servant the way these terms imply. >Batman - No, not Bruce Wayne. Alfred might be closer. But the > problems here are first the advisory role, which, while > it might exist, is strongly downplayed in the general > perception of the role, and second, the personal servant > part of the 'batman' definition. > That said, there _is_ a military relationship that just > might possibly be a good match: There's no defined term > for it that I'm aware of, but the crusty old career > sergeant really does more-or-less act as /fraghta/ to > the wet-behind-the-ears butterbar whose commission is > still so new it squeaks. >Sifu - Better than 'Sensei', but still tends to carry > implications of specialization and/or of martial arts. > Similarly, 'guru', with the special focus being > spiritual philosophy. >Squire - Almost the exact opposite of the desired relationship. > The squire is there to be advised and taught by the > principal, and is generally younger and less experienced > than the principal. >Pedagogue, Tutor, Proctor, Didact - Perception here would be too > focussed on 'book learning', not on learning-by- > experience with the /fraghta/ mostly in the background. > There's also the evolving role of the /fraghta/, and > none of these words really cover that. I should note that 'Tutor' in an older sense wouldn't be completely inappropriate; when it was common for a family to send out an adolescent scion on a 'Grand Tour', it would be with a 'tutor', who would actually act very much as a /fraghta/. However, the tutor's service in this role was very much temporary; a /fraghta/ is essentially permanent - if a /fraghta/ resigns for any reason other than personal incapacity, or is recalled by the family/clan for any reason, it reflects poorly - VERY poorly - on the scion (for example, if the heir-apparent has their /fraghta/ withdrawn (or the /fraghta/ resigns), it is essentially a statement that the heir-apparent is utterly unqualified to inherit). >Consigliere - Another close one. May have problems because of the > political overtones, but if it can be used for the > 'chief of staff', as opposed to the Prime Minister, it > might be the best suggestion yet, even though it misses > the bodyguard and teacher roles. >Honestly, the best word I have so far is /fraghta/, but there are >Reasons that I will not use it at present. I'm still looking for a good term; others that have been suggested, and what I perceive as their weaknesses: Chaperone, Duenna - There isn't a perception that these include the facilitation, advisory, or training/education roles that are included in the original /fraghta/. There's also the idea that the chaperone/duenna is supposed to keep their charge out of trouble, rather than allowing it to happen, but keeping it from damaging the _family_, and then using it as a lesson to the scion. Coryphaeus - I like this word; it's just not right for this role. It's more appropriate for the role of the 'public face' of e.g., a political party in a legislature or parliament. The /fraghta/ isn't the speaker for/public face of the scion. Craig, Petra, Rock, etc. - There's something to be said for this as a characterisation of _part_ of the /fraghta/'s early role; what the scion learns from the /fraghta/ is in effect a foundation for his (the scion's) later role in society. However, even though the scion will rely on the /fraghta/ for as long as the /fraghta/ is in his service, the role does in fact evolve away from this aspect, and more toward 'chief of staff', for which 'rock' isn't really an appropriate characterisation. Caretaker, Custodian, Tender - These terms make it seem like the scion is nothing more than a job to the /fraghta/, but the reality is that neither the scion nor the /fraghta/ see it that way; the /fraghta/ is actually more than friend, but less than family. Subintendant (as opposed to superintendant), Infraintendant - Both of these seem to be coined words, but looking up the role of 'intendant' makes these seem inappropriate for the role; the /fraghta/ is not primarily an administrative _overseer_, as 'intendant' seems to be. Nurturer, Lifemother (as opposed to birthmother), Nanny, Governess - All of these seem to imply a relationship that is more personal than the role actually is, and one that does not include the 'school of hard knocks' lessons. Sculptor - Somewhat the same objection as 'rock'. Majordomo, Steward, Reeve - Where 'Valet' was _too_ personal a role, these words imply a role that is _less_ personal than the /fraghta/. Factotum - Certainly not an inaccurate word for the role; I would say that a /fraghta/ is a _specific kind_ of factotum, somewhere between a valet and a majordomo. It's interesting that someone had started with 'mentat', based on the /Dune/ series; some comments disposing of it as a valid idea had the /Dune/ mentat "able to see the fluctuating paths of the future" - which has some resonance in the Jao concept of 'flow' (or the Ekhat perception of the /Ekha/). Would the role of /fraghta/, by whatever name, actually be more common among Aslan than among humans? Among Aslan, would it actually be a paired role, one male, one female? Would some human cultures be more likely to have it than others? Which ones? Note: Baen has revamped their website since this topic was last active; the URL in that thread for the books from which this idea arises may or may not be valid. A definitely-valid URL for them is https://www.baen.com/allbooks/category/index/id/2159,1972 ®Traveller is a registered trademark of Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2018. 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