On Feb 23, 2017, at 2:01 PM, C. Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Somewhere or other I saw an age estimate of 0.5 billion years. One of the papers on TRAPPIST-1 says that its age is constrained to be >= 0.5 billion, so perhaps I was just seeing a slightly garbled citation of that value. I haven't had a chance to read the whole paper carefully yet.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Rob Davenport <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
:) Good points.
I wondered how old/young it was - I didn't catch an age estimate in the paper but being a dwarf star made me think of old stars.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:01 PM, C. Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, the system is pretty young, so it hasn't had time to break yet. :)
And it's 12 parsecs away, roughly to core-spinward. So maybe we should just ask the Vilani about it.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Rob Davenport <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting paper. The section "Initial assessment of the system’s long-term stability" says they think it *should* be unstable over long timescales. One of their statistical analyses gave 8% chance of stability over 1 billion years. But the fact that it is there implies there may be other factors stabilizing the system.
Seems like a job for the IISS - if only we could just jump over and investigate...
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:08 PM, C. Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, my, resonances indeed! Just eyeballing it:
b:e:f:g 1:4:6:8d:e 2:3
None exact, but all close enough to create resonance effects. It's interesting that c doesn't seem to resonate with anything.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:
> On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote:
>
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>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:34 AM, C. Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Ah, yes. The Traveller version of "A wizard did it." :)
>>
>> Has anybody seen the orbital periods for these planets published? It would be easy to look for resonances. I'd be surprised if there's room for everything to have small integer resonances in a 7-planet system that small, but I've been surprised before.
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> Here’s the article they published in Nature, haven’t read it yet, but that info might be in there: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/nature21360.pdf
>
And to answer my own post, yes Table 1 lists them, some with astonishing precisison.TRAPPIST-1b has a period of 1.51087081±0.60×10−6 days. That’s 0.05 seconds of variance!
Which if these weren’t actual rocket surgeons I would classify as ‘because my calculator said so’ kind of numbers :-)
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