Hi again Craig Berry,
 
Being retired military there where things that did not make sense. One example is having Thomas Alva Edison's upright piano in the crew's mess of the ballistic missile submarine named in his honor. The piano did not make sense to me then, but I thought it was cool. The problem was not finding a piano tuner with a security clearance.
 
Having an alternate source of veggies and a back-up for oxygen regeneration, in my opinion, makes sense, but then again there is a limit to how much space would be needed.
 
Tom R


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Oh, sure. You could do that. The question is whether it makes sense to do it on a warship with unsupplied patrol times on the order of months at most. Seems to me that it would be more efficient to just pack the food you're going to need, recycle your water and air (easy to do with effectively limitless power available), and be done with it.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:20 PM, <tmr0195@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello Craig Berry,
 
In more than one science fiction tales ships use hydroponic systems in conjunction with technology or as a back-up system.
 
Tom R


From: "Craig Berry" <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
To: "TML" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
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Subject: Re: [TML] Instant city

I imagine it's similar to a modern nuclear submarine; it carries enough provisions for a year or two, and does aggressive recycling, but it's not a closed ecosystem.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Knapp <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
How does a Tigress feed its crew? Seems like it would have to have quite a supply train following it around.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Craig Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
There would certainly be populated country for a day's ride around the ship. You'd need a lot of agricultural production to support such a "city", implying towns and villages for the farmers, a road (or canal) network to get the produce to the city, and the usual mix of trades (millers, smiths, chandlers, etc.) to support the farmers.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Jeffrey Schwartz <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Bruce  Johnson
<xxxxxx@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Knapp <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder how it would feel to live in a Tigress city. It has room for about 5000 plus whatever is converted to living quarters. I am sure that they could double that figure given all the rooms that would no longer be needed for stuff like cargo pods, run and flight rooms etc. Still given all that 10,000 is not that big a population. I would imagine that the ship would be more like the castle at the center of a (let say) medieval town.
>
> 10K was a huge population for a medieval town; that’s what London was in 1150 or so. Constantinople was pretty much the center of the western world at the time and only had ~150-200K inhabitants.
>
> It would be a major population center.
>

That's a really good point.
One building that's as big as the biggest city in England... and then
there would probably be a city that grows up around it, suburbs of a
sort.

I have this vibe of Niven's "Oath of Fealty", except it really is medieval/TL4

And we're ignoring the "portable technologies" as well. A Tigress
probably has a bunch of flashlights, hand computers, short/medium/long
range comms, etc. Heck, if you go with "Marooned", there's 5000
Survival kits in there.  That you can bring a lot of that stuff back
to the ship and recharge it means it lasts longer.
If the Tigress has machine shops and such for maintenance (which seems
likely), then a lot of that portable tech could be nursed along for a
long time.

Which means a "Wizard Caste" that could go out and do things in the
rest of the kingdom

And that could be some interesting adventuring
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