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Greg, It is you who have assumed the title of 'know-it-all' thru the various behaviors that you've been demonstrating.

You can't seem to grasp that you have to convince/cajole/whatever-it-takes those who have the power to 'make or break' your scheme & that treating them like idiots & fools will never, ever accomplish that.

Just 'cuz you've busted your butt for X# of years to come up w/ '40 pages' means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
You aren't the 1st one & you won't be the last to make that claim.

How long do you think those colonels would last if they even seriously considered (much less accepted &/or promoted) every, or even *any* '40 page proposal' submitted by any  trash-talking smart-aleck that happens along?

They &, I imagine, a lot of us here on the TML, have seen this all before & maybe even many times before.
Face it, at least 99% of the time that grandiose claims such as yours are made, those claims turn out bogus.
And that's why they're is just 'tuning' you out.

If your proposal actually does aim to fundamentally change (ie; 'turn topsy-turvey') the entire military establishment in the USA then you must really 'be on something' if you think *anyone* in *any* position of authority is going to even give the time of day to such a proposal from an unknown 'nobody'!

You've guaranteed yourself a losing outcome right from the get-go & waiting for a new 'cycle' of colonels emerge isn't going to change anything.
They'll going to behave in an identical manner 'cuz it would be irrational to do otherwise.
No matter how 'rational' it might seem to you.

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On Mon, 6/22/15, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML]Question
 To: "tml@simplelists.com" <tml@simplelists.com>
 Date: Monday, June 22, 2015, 5:40 PM

 Phil,

 It is
 you that affixed the label of 'know-it-all'
 to me.
 My actual
 expertise is in very narrow fields of knowledge gained over
 36 and 17 years respectively.
 That I rarely
 until now participate in most of the list discussions
 suggest the contrary; I am here to mostly learn, and
 therfore usually keep my mouth shut.

 I asked a
 friend (former journalist) about the accusation of
 arrogance, and he suggested that it is a good ad hominen way
 to end an inconvenient argument.

 It doesn't
 matter *what* my 'clients' think. In the first
 instance it matters IF they think at all :-)
 [Call me
 arrogant, I may as well live up yo your label]

 As it happens
 I am also the guy who has found the Ultimate Truth, which is
 a different discussion altogether.
 If I was the
 'Gazillion'
  (is a non-existent word often used to mean an ridiculously
 or extremely
 large amount of something, or as an exaggeration) person to
 have made this claim, there would be NO SUCH PEOPLE.

 I
 don't own a high (16 hands) horse or even a Shetland
 pony, another assumption on your part. You know what they
 say about people who ass u me?

 Now see if
 you can guess whom I am talking about here "...from the
 back room in their Ohio repair and
 sales shop in May 1899 they wrote a letter to the
 Smithsonian Institution requesting information and
 publications about [the field of study]. Drawing on the work
 of Sir George Cayley, Chanute, Lilienthal, Leonardo da
 Vinci, and Langley, they began their mechanical
 experimentation that year." "Their approach
 to the solution thus differed sharply from more experienced
 practitioners of the day", and one problem that caused
 failure in experiments by authorities in the field was
 "a value which had been in use for over 100 years and
 was part of the accepted equation". "The [later]
 tests yielded a trove of valuable data never before known
 and showed
  that the poor [performance] of the initial vehicles was
 entirely due to an
 incorrect value."
 These people
 never graduated from high school, or had any formal
 engineering qualifications, or were ever employed as
 engineers.

 And, speaking
 of missiles (as happens often on this list) whom am I
 describing here, and what invention? "...despite a
 young Winston Churchill praising him for creating something
 that could “revolutionise the railway systems of the
 world”, [he]
 never found a buyer for the invention and spent almost all
 of his money
 developing it."

 Greg

 On 23 June 2015 at 09:40,
 Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <nobody@simplelists.com>
 wrote:
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 Greg, I thought you were going to drop the
 'know-it all' arrogance...



 Well, it's just more of the supremely arrogant,
 condescending drivel that is SOP, anyway.



 You will never get anywhere using this approach.



 The fact that you can't seem to learn from your obvious
 mistakes dos not augur well for your chances of
 acceptance.



 Get a clue; it doesn't matter how right *you* *think*
 you are or whether or not you think your behavior is
 appropriate.

 It only matter what the clients that you are soliciting
 think.



 You're only about the gazillionth guy who thinks
 he's found the 'Ultimate Truth(tm)' & been
 ignored so get off your high horse & get over it!



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 On Mon, 6/22/15, Greg Chalik
 <mrg3105@gmail.com>
 wrote:



  Subject: Re: [TML]Question

  To: tml@simplelists.com

  Date: Monday, June 22, 2015, 2:53 PM



  Phil,

  I thought you weren't going to respond to anything
 I

  say.

  First off, I know I'm the only guy who had done the

  'shovelling because there was no sign of

  'digging' when I got there, and there still

  isn't anyone 'digging' next to me.

  The world of US Defence my be classified, but its

  deliverables are not invisible. Look up ACV 1.1

  That is, there is no physical evidence to suggest
 anyone

  else has done ANY THING to rectify the $3.5 b oops

  moment.

  I didn't just 'do a study'. In your haste

  with ad hominens towards me you seem to have been hard
 of

  reading.

  Design is more than a study because it requires proof
 of

  concept. Don't ask. Its IP and classified.

  I wasn't talking to 'folks'. These people
 are

  paid to do a job. And I wasn't asking for a 'leap
 of

  faith' either. Proof of concept means substantial

  evidence is provided that the concept works. It just
 works

  very differently from how these 'folks' would
 like

  it to work. That is tough. 

  Since providing reading advice seems to be in vogue, I

  would suggest you find a book on appropriate use of
 idioms.



  By the way, I have studied warfare for a lot longer
 than

  most colonels because 90% of military officer's life
 is

  following administrative procedure, not warfare. And
 even

  when deployed on active operations in theatre, its not
 all

  combat. Most colonels in the USMC have never fired on
 the

  enemy, and NONE have conducted an opposed amphibious

  landing.

  The two officers in question were a pilot and an

  artillery specialists. How much combined arms warfare

  understanding and translating into vehicle design did
 their

  miles provide? 0



  They should have forwarded me to someone else, but
 instead

  they lied.

  I think I have an advantage over them because my
 thinking

  is not limited by many factors I would be happy to
 explain

  to you off list.

  Greg

  On 22/06/2015 11:37

  PM, "Phil Pugliese (via tml list)" <nobody@simplelists.com>

  wrote:

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  On Sun, 6/21/15, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com>

  wrote:







   Subject: Re: [TML]Question



   To: "tml@simplelists.com"

  <tml@simplelists.com>



   Date: Sunday, June 21, 2015, 7:41 PM







   Phil,







   <And it just may be that



   the aforesaid 'tude' is why no one at the
 USMC

  will



   listen?















   "OK, all you ignorant god-for-saken fools. I,
 the



   'ONE&ONLY KEEPER



   OF THE TRUTH' have arrived & will now
 enlighten

  you!



   Rejoice, for



   now you won't have to act like brain-damaged

  retarded



   morons anymore. On



    top of that I have years & years of paper
 studies

  to



   back up the



   ultimate wisdom of my assertions!"<







   Thanks for



   that. I'll use it next time :-)







   Actually I



   mostly based my desings on the USMC and some US Army



   manuals.



   Because I was



   aware of the GFC in 2007 and the US DoD was not, I
 based

  my



   design in the first place on the perception that it
 needs

  to



   be affordable (after correspondence with a USAF
 colonel

  who



   wrote a book on the subject).



   There is



   virtually no advanced technology in my design. Most
 of

  the



   'advanced' stuff is in the doctrine, or

  'soft



   ware' if you wish.







   To criticise



   me as being arrogant, you first need to understand
 how

  the



   particular program that I started off performing
 analysis

  on



   came about and developed. You don't know this,
 and

  I



   would say that those who were in charge in 1996

  didn't



   know either. Certainly the GDLS project staff

  didn't



   know. Even my USMC expert knowledge colonel (a 
 marine



   tanker) had to pull the info out of the deeper
 recesses

  of



   his memory.







   I have done



   the 'shovelling', so I can be arrogant to say
 I

  have



   done the work.



   As for paper



   studies, where do you think DoD projects come from?
 Most

  at



   one stage all 'looked good on paper'.



   The USMC has



   been running Analysis of Alternatives studies for
 four

  years



   now, all 'paper studies'.







   You think the



   US Army operational wing colonels have an engineering



   workshop somewhere at Ft Benning they all run down to

  to



   weld up a prototype when they see fit?







  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^







  Which only means that you're just another guy
 who's

  done a 'study'.







  Naturally you will think that your baby is the
 'cherry

  on top' but so does everyone else!







  Statements like " I have done the
 'shovelling',

  so I can be arrogant to say I have



   done the work." is guaran-damn-teed to turn off

  whoever you're speaking to 'cuz it implies that
 if

  they weren't so stupid they'd be able to see
 how

  good your baby is already.



  HINT: insulting folks like that is NOT going to get you
 what

  you want.







  Look, you think you're the first
 'know-it-all'

  guy to show up w/ a 'holy grail'?



  GET REAL, anyone w/ any kind of experience has already
 heard

  that claim many, many times & some have been

  'burned' when the bought into it.







  You can't realistically expect anyone to take a leap
 of

  faith (drink the kool-aid) just on your say-so. And esp
 not

  when you take the position that everything that person
 has

  learned is WRONG(tm)!







  Besides that, they're just as likely to think that

  they're the one who's knowledge is superior,
 their

  beliefs are valid, & therefore treat you w/ the
 same

  amount of contempt that you display towards them.







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