Hi there,

Many thanks for a fulsome reply!


On 10 September 2014 03:46, David Jaques-Watson <davidjw@pcug.org.au> wrote:

Dear Folks -

 

Bibliographies! Those things only of interest to us bibliographers and library data curators.


Well you say that... but I keep hearing that BITS are getting questions about a 3rd edition of my bibliography.  (In fairness, the 2nd is very out of date).  So someone out there seems to want more...

My apologies it's taken a while but for a game that's nearly 40 years old and which in some quarters has been "written off" the number of publications for it in recent years is pretty astonishing!  Of course, I suppose the cynical might say that the internet has allowed self-publishing to lower the bar - it's certainly meant I've had to learn to deal with shorter items!  (Says he having just spent some of the last week on the d66 single sheet lists!)
 

 

Not knowing what your preference is, here’s some discussion points for you, Tim (titles should be in italics; don’t know if it will come through in the TML):


Remarkably it has - for me at least - I wouldn't have bet on it.
 

 

Example 1 – an online PDF, Harvard style (UWS 2013):

 

Este, J, Warren, C, Connor, L, Brown, M, Pollard, R, O’Connor, T 2008, Life in the clickstream: the future of journalism, Media Entertainment and Arts Alliance, viewed 27 May 2009, <http://www.alliance.org.au/documents/foj_report_final.pdf>.

 

Example 2 – electronic-only document unavailable in print, with explanation (Tufts 2003):

 

Wire service and other materials that are unavailable in printed form or are difficult to obtain in the original, however, may be cited as “available in” a database.

 

Most articles found in electronic databases do not indicate the original page numbers within the electronic text. If you are footnoting the article and would normally supply a page number (as for a quotation), you may want to cite the database in which you found the article, to make clear the reason for lack of a page citation, and to facilitate location of the passage by the reader.

 

Emery, Noemie 2002, “Quagmire Nostalgia: The Media are Forever Bogged Down in Vietnam”, The Weekly Standard, November 11, 2002. Accessed March 10, 2003. Available from LexisNexis.

 

Example 3 – Ebook, with explanation (UWS 2013):

 

Storey, KB, 2004, Functional metabolism: regulation and adaptation, John Wiley & Sons, Hoboken, NJ, viewed 4 April 2009, NetLibrary database.

 

Note: If an e-book is publicly accessible via the Internet, include the URL instead of database name. e.g. viewed 4 April 2009, <http://www…>

If the e-book is edited, include editor information as in the ‘Edited book’ example.

 

 

So my take is this: if you have an electronic-only version of a document, and which is no longer available even from a publisher, use the following:

 

Jones-Law, Thomas 2003, Traveller’s Aide #6: Against Gravity, QuikLink Interactive, USA, PDF no longer available from QuikLink.



Thanks for those examples.

Throughout the bibliography, I've listed the printed item and then noted that it had an electronic version (of whatever size/title etc).
I think my question is really should I revise that for these where they appear to be really electronic items that *might* have been printed.  It's pedantic really, but I'm keen not to be assuming certain things are so, only reporting what is so!

 

BTW, the list of QuikLink products (with links to individual blurbs and cover pics) is here:

http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/QuickLink_Interactive_List


Thanks for that. Very helpful in case I'd missed it.

 

It includes a link to a page about TA #9, with a cover pic, and says it was available as a PDF.


I know, I know!  Frustrating!And it's not that I don't believe it... but evidence of it's existence would be good!  (I've seen such lists before including - particularly at the 'end' - things that were actually only planned to be published and never saw light of day.  I'm trying not to propagate such errors.

There is actually a review of it here:
http://www.freelancetraveller.com/features/reviews/quicklink/ta0009-ml.html

which is probably why I'm currently including the thing!

 

 

 

References (for the examples above)


If you're interested, we even do our own suite which I understand is used in a fair few other universities:

http://referencing.port.ac.uk/

Cheers

tc