Actually the B-52 goes back a little farther;


RoleStrategic bomber
National originUnited States
ManufacturerBoeing
First flight15 April 1952; 68 years ago
IntroductionFebruary 1955
StatusIn service
Primary usersUnited States Air Force
NASA
Produced1952–1962
Number built744[1]
Developed intoConroy Virtus

The "1960's" detail may come from the B-52H, which was the last model produced.
It had higher power turbo-fans for increased range & mover the tail-gunner up front w/ the rest of the crew.
I've read that this version is the only one still flying.

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On Saturday, January 16, 2021, 09:59:01 AM MST, xxxxxx@quibell.org.uk <xxxxxx@quibell.org.uk> wrote:


I have never got the “you spend more on the car maintaining it than the car is worth” thing. The value of a car is in its utility and effectiveness as a means of transport, not it’s monetary value. If it costs you £2,000 in maintenance keeping your paid off 15 year old car on the road (that’s worth £100 scrap), but it costs you £4,000 a year financing a new car (that depreciated by 1/3 of its value as soon as you drove it off the forecourt) then your old car is better value. It does the same thing (get you where you want to go) at less cost … but I’m sure that’s just me … anyway …

 

Entering service in the ‘50s the decade before the Boeing B52 and still in active military service to this day …

  • McDonnell Douglas Phantom F4
  • Lockheed Martin C-130
  • Boeing KC-135 (it’s a converted 707)
  • Lockheed U-2
  • Dassault Mirage III
  • Mikoyan Gurevich MIG-21

 

And showing that good design against required specification really is the thing with the 2nd longest production run of any military aircraft (the C130 above being the longest) I give you the:

  • Antonov AN-2

 

Entering service in ’40s and still in active military service today; admittedly with North Korea which is probably not the best endorsement however they are still flying … and still in combat operations by Azerbaijan last year (2020) … I know!!! ; admittedly as a Unmanned Combat Arial Vehicle (UCAV) most probably as a decoy drone (see my Van Nuys Class Decoy Unmanned Combat Arial Vehicle posted earlier (which was based on Azerbaijan using the AN-2)), but purported to be carrying a bombing payload as well (although that could just have been to make sure the Armenians shot it down (therefore making it more effective in its decoy drone capacity)).

 

From: xxxxxx@simplelists.com <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> On Behalf Of Ethan McKinney
Sent: 15 January 2021 04:31
To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
Subject: Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance

 

1. How expensive is the hull, as a fraction of the total cost of the ship?

The more expensive the hull, the more likely you are to keep replacing components. This tends to happen as cars get older--over time, you spend much more on maintenance than the car is worth!

 

2. How long do the drives last?

If jump drives last 40+ years, everything else is going to be replaced until the jump drive fails.

 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 4:44 PM Kurt Feltenberger <xxxxxx@thepaw.org> wrote:

On 1/14/2021 7:09 PM, Charles Hensley - hensleyc1 at mac.com (via tml list) wrote:

How long is the hull viable? Most players that 
get a ship, by the rules, get one that is 40+ years old.  How long could 
it be expected to last as a viable ship before it's no longer physically 
safe to use?

Well, a bank won’t give a 40 year loan if they did not expect it to last that long. I would expect that 40 is the time for the major refit. Car loans are normally 6 year term, average car lifespan is 12 years. If that applies to ships, then average lifespan would be 80 years. But then my vehicles are 14, 19, 24, and 47. So while half the ships are done at 80, there will still be a few working at 300.

 

The B52 bomber is 65 years old and expected to go another 30. Just a few data points on my WAG.

 

Charles


Agreed on all points.  But given the nature of things being manufactured today, where they tend to have a specific lifespan, would that apply to ships?  Past a certain point the cost to replace components will exceed the cost to just sell it for scrap or to Happy Eneri's Used Jalopy Emporium and buy new.


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Kurt Feltenberger
xxxxxx@thepaw.org/xxxxxx@yahoo.com
“Before today, I was scared to live, after today, I'm scared I'm not living enough." - Me 

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