Isolated populations that have been isolated for many, many years (thousands, etc) could easily expect variances that are notable. 

However, there's a certain argument that what leads to these variances (other than mutations from radiation, etc) is the effects of natural selection. Those usually appear with issues that present serious threats to wellbeing if you don't have a particular adaptation or even just a single necessary gene. On the other hand, we humans freely mix which has largely scattered our genes around the planet but more than that, since we developed technology, it is likely our *biological* variation has slowed because we use technology to avoid or overcome the threats that would have driven some of the variation in the animal kingdom; By dealing with problems with brains, science and tech, we avoid the scenario of requiring particular genetic adaptations to survive. We still get some variation, but it is slower than before we were technological. 

That's something to consider. 

Tom B 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 10:01 AM <xxxxxx@quibell.org.uk> wrote:

There was someone (can’t remember her name) that did a self-funded PhD on the genetic variation of Reindeer herds on South Georgia before they were culled, against the Norwegian breeding herd that the stock for both herds on South Georgia were taken from. Looking at genetic variation in distinct groups.

 

I can’t remember the details but there is/was significant genetic variation between the three, however they were all the same species.

 

While 100 odd years isn’t the same as many thousands for the purposes of the game we could expect that the human cultural diversity is just that, cultural. There may be distinct genetic groups within that, as there are today on earth, but in reality they are all the same species.

 

Best regards,

 

Ewan.

 

 

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On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 18:44 Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list), <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:

I think your comment would be valid for all the minor human races too as I believe that the Ancients probably 'picked them up' all at the same time.

 

And,. as far as the Vilani are concerned, there's been so much intermingling since contact (re-contact?) that there could be trouble.

Out on the 'Rim, there have been a number of major scandals where prominent SolParty officials have been rumored to have 'tainted blood'.

Of course, when most of what I've read was written the current level of DNA testing was not avail.

By the time of the TU it would be trivial to chk everyone.

 

It'd be about as hokey as Ancestry DNA kits. Any non-isolated homo sapiens sapiens will mix genes. The biggest irony for White Supremacists is their Heinz 57 genes. 

 

You could try to define a True Solomani genetically but it wouls either be a narrow definition and would cover few or apropriately broad which would admit all Terrans and thus so be not much use as a sieve.

 

I can easily imagine a situation where very few cultural solomani actually have 100% pure solomani DNA.

 

Very few is too generous. None.

 

p.s. I wonder if the presences of Neanderthal DNA could also be a disqualification?   ;-P 

 

Are they not from Earth?

 

And the dumb part: the capital and political power no longer tie to Terra. Living on Dingir or other planets could ensure genetic mutation/drift. To include extra Terran populations, you would need a wide interpretation of what True Solomani are.

 

PS - Jeff: Zho upper classes are easy to spot - little villain mustaches and massive heads like the Great Gazoo under their turbans. Then again they just make themselves noticable using psi. ;-)

 

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On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 12:01:54 PM MST, Vareck Bostrom <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

Human: Can produce fertile offspring with H. Sapiens from Terra.
   Examples: Vilani, Zhodani, Solomani, Sword Worlders, etc.

   Comment: Generally, if you put a Human into the same sort of clothes you
     wear, you'd not necessarily spot them as "not from here" just by
     looking at them walking down the street. for example, a Zhodani might
     just be a somewhat tall Joe (as opposed to your average Joe); a Vilani
     might not be given a second look as a Caribbean Islander, a Sword
     Worlder might just be your average Nordic type, etc.

 

As a side note, though they would be homo sapiens, the split between Zhodani, Solomani and Vilani occured something like 400000 years ago, I think that's a pretty long period of time for them to be still mistaken for contemporary Solomani.  

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