On 08/30/2020 10:08 PM xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
I missed the note at the bottom, because the reference to it was on the page with charted space and is said 'here' but I couldn't find it and only after it occured to me the 'here' might really have meant 'there' as in 'on the page with the individual sector'.
Note if you are browsing Berka's map at Zho Base, the Vanguard Reaches and The Beyond both use the dotmap from DGP 1991 and the data from Galactic which was from Chuck Kallenbach's update (and that data, according to Joshua at the Traveller Map was aimed to be for 1200 for TNE but was meant to be also usable for MT 1120 times (and likely CT times too).
So the Traveller Map's 1105 at the moment is the small Paranoia Press booklets and the original planetary layout, whereas Berka's is from after the new dot map was created by DGP.
In the long run, maybe someone does CT-era in MgT and papers over the Paranoia Press stuff completely. I think in that case, it ought to have a home somewhere as an ATU.
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 10:30 PM Thomas RUX < xxxxxx@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello kaladorn,
My apologies for not checking out the other posts before replying.
Tom Rux
On 08/30/2020 7:26 PM Thomas RUX < xxxxxx@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello kaladorn,
I believe that the information on the site, cited below, clearly states where the information came from.
Vanguard Reaches - Credits
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The Vanguard Reaches data are reproduced here with permission of the author, Chuck Kallenbach II . Chuck
expressed the wish that we use the data provided on the Paranoia Press homepage rather than what was in the actual sector book (copyright 1981). These new data, Chuck feels, cover both MT and TNE and should be valid for T4 as well.
The text for the Library Data was provided by Chuck at his
web site and structured and adapted, without modification to the wording, for use in GALACTIC.
The stories entitled Von Ryan's War and the Loser's Perspective were provided by Chuck at the same site and incorporated into the information for the Duchy of Trelyn. Von Ryan's War is reproduced by permission of the author, Chuck Kallenbach II. The Loser's Perspective is credited to Dan Hillen from original ideas by Don Rapp. Proper credits can be found at the Paranoia Press homepage.
Michel Boucher organized the information
for use in GALACTIC."
Of course there is no way to check the Paranoia Press homepage.
Tom Rux
On 08/30/2020 12:07 PM xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
That data set does not match the Paranoia Press Vanguard Reaches (and thus I imagine The Beyond sector would also be different). I also doubt it matches later DGP stuff either. I do not know where they got their data from.
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 1:51 PM Thomas RUX < xxxxxx@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello kaladorn,
On 08/30/2020 2:34 AM xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
Looking in the book for Vanguard Reaches, the base at Totenkopf is supposed to be a non-IISS/non-Imperial Scout Base and the base at Langemarck is in fact a non-Imperial Naval Base. I think from https://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Base_Code they should have types J for Langemarke and V for Totenkopf.Here is a link to Supplement PO3 Space Atlas https://zhodani.space/data/CLASSIC/
Checking all of the subsector maps I did not either Totenkopf or Langemarck listed in the subsector write-up.
Tom Rux
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 5:29 AM < xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm working on some entries for the Traveller Wiki for the Vanguard Reaches (published for CT by Paranoia Press).
I've been looking at the page for Langemarck itself, one of the few world pages in the Langemarck Coalition that was already existent and in the list of sources there is mention of an online update to the Vanguard Reaches (and possibly other Paranoia Press material), date identified as 1991, and authored by Chuck Kallenbach who wrote these supplements I believe.
Where online these existed, unclear. Anyone with a long memory and a deep repository of past data have a copy of these updates?
I see on the Traveller Wiki that the legend they use marks the base at Langemark as a Naval Base (non-Imperial) but the code recorded on the page is a K which https://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Base_Code appears not to align with (its not a K'Kree base... I think it should be F or a J) and the base on the map appears to be noted in the TravellerMap legend as 'independent base' which seems like it would have base code F (perhaps a Langemarck Army base?).
As Paranoia Press is out of operation, I doubt any errata will cover these discrepancies, but if there was some updates to UWPs etc. in 1991, I never saw this update. If anyone has whatever Chuck put out in 1991 as an update, I'd love to see it. If it's on the CD that has the PP stuff, just point me there as I have the disk somewhere.
Tom B
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