It has a multi-fold role:
- Maritime Search and Rescue (this is it's major focus)
- Port / Harbour Security
- Law Enforcement on Water and around Ports/Harbours
- When attached to military missions, they help with clearing harbours and waterways of threats, they help provide port security, they help organize and control shipping in ports, and they provide extra SAR assets
- They engage in boarding of vessels in US waters and if they are in a foreign AO, there as well, for the purposes of search (& seizure) for the purpose of locating smuggled stuff (people, weapons, terrorists, immigrants, refugees, drugs, whatever)
- I am not certain, but up here, out CG is responsible for 'lights' (light houses and other lights), navigational systems (radio nav gear), and for buoys that have lights and/or other navigational aspects (signs, symbols, etc), and in some cases, would be responsible for inland markers used for what sailors call 'ranges' (a visual navigation aid mounted on land that helps fix positions for boats)
- Also, I have heard cases of CG responding by air to US landward locations when an EPIRB (Emergency Personal Individual Rescue Beacon IIRC) is triggered (even if it is in your garage.... but they send you a bill then)
- Unsure if they do icebreaking around Alaska of other northern or far southern US holding or protectorate
- I'm pretty sure your guys have had some chemical warfare training (maybe its only when in a threat area, but I suspect it may be more general)

Contrast with Canadian CG:
- We have fewer go fast boats and though armed, ours have lighter arms
- Ours are not an 'Armed Service' but are a 'Civilian Agency' (they have arms, but they aren't considered in the same vein as the military)
- Ours also do icebreaking
- Ours also enable and support northern science related to climate, the North West Passage, populations in the north (they have science ships plus they put science types on ice breakers)
- Ours has a LE aspect, but only for the water - never seen them doing a lot for harbour security - local PDs usually handle those
- Not sure our pensions are in any way aligned with civil service or military pensions (ditto benefits)
- Harbour security in foreign theaters would be done for us by the navy as would clearing harbours, etc.
- We lack the range of vessels (but we have some you likely don't due to being more Northerly) of the USCG
- Ours have no NBC defense capability I'm aware of


On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:22 AM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
But, even now, the USCG is part of the 'Dept of Homeland Security' & not the DoD.

It's basic mission seems to have evolved into primarily nautical police activities.

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On Friday, July 31, 2020, 07:44:16 AM MST, xxxxxx@gmail.com <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:


Pension wise, it was integrated before that. When one of my friends went from flying medevac choppers for the 82 Abn to the USCG flying SAR, all his pension accruals and benefits I believe stayed the same.

Also, the USCG had wartime roles and would accompany military missions (such as the ones in the Gulf) in a way that ours (being a civilian agency) would not.

So there may have been some grey areas, but for the most part, it was more of an Armed Service than our Canadian Coast Guard.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 12:53 AM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
Prior to '9/11' the USCG was in somewhat of a 'grey' area wrt status.

In peacetime it was actually part of the Interior Dept (which in the US , unlike a lot of other countries, does NOT control the police) while in wartime it came under DoD command.

That all changed after '9/11' & it is now considered another branch of the armed services of the USA.

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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 04:47:22 AM MST, <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:


Not a service academy, but there is a somewhat remote university you need some more than usual efforts to enter that teaches materials related to intelligence work which then feeds the NSA, CiA, etc. 

One of my ex-SF buddies had his number one son go there after he realized he could serve his country without being necessarily dodging IEDs and snipers (said young msn initially wanted to be an infantry or ranger company commander).

We have a CG school but our CG, while having some arms (fisheries do too), is not an Armed Service in the same sense as Army, Navy, Air Force and possibly some emergent others. The CG is a civilian agency maybe best seen as maritime SAR and LE vs a military branch.

A fair few positions are 'purple' (neither green, blue or navy) such as Image Analysts and the Peace Support Training Center as examples.

We also lack an external intelligence agency. CSIS operates within Canada and can travel but does not have much operational authority elsewhere and is primarily defensive and has a civilian oversight body. Our CSE (our NSA / signals intercept agency) may have broader operational scope as it is much murkier.

We have wrestled with the notion of an external spy agency but international law seems to be a concern for us.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 05:20 Jeff Zeitlin, <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:03:34 -0400, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote to Freelance
Traveller:

>By 'academy' do you mean like a military prep school?

No, the service academies in the United States are degree-granting
universities; calling them "Academies" is a matter of tradition for us.

The "United States Military Academy" (West Point, NY) generally "feeds" the
Army.

The "United States Naval Academy" (Anapolis, MD) generally "feeds" the Navy
and the Marine Corps.

The "United States Air Force Academy" (Colorado Springs, CO) generally
"feeds" the Air Force (and the new Space Force)

The "United States Coast Guard Academy" (New London, CT) generally "feeds"
the Coast Guard. It should be noted that, unlike the other service
academies, admission to the United States Coast Guard Academy does not
require that the applicant be nominated by Congress.

There is also a "United States Merchant Marine Academy" (Kings Point, NY)
which "feeds" the United States Merchant Marine, but also trains cadets
destined for other services in shipboard operations and related subjects. A
Congressional nomination is required for admission. Graduates are
commissioned as officers in the United States Naval Reserve.



>For us, Royal Military College is a degree-granting university and I've
>never heard of a military prep school here, but they may exist. If you go
>to RMC, you'll come out with a degree (my brother-in-law did Management
>Engineering and my other pal from there did Electrical/Computer Engineering
>with focus on crypto). Bryan went into the RCAF to work on F-18 related
>projects (and some other birds) and JP went to Communications (a separate
>branch from the Army) and then into civilian Crypto work (now he's
>engineering head of crypto4A). So you may have had some choices of where
>you went after RMC, but I think your degree tended to direct your service
>choice.
>
>I met some cadets from VMI and West Point at Royal Military College for a
>gaming convention (back then, mostly Harpoon and Microarmour with various
>'Soviets spill into Europe' scenarios).
>
>On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:50 PM Evyn Gutierrez <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On July 27, 2020, at 10:20, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks for the info, Tom.
>> >
>> >I was curious because your US commissions have a different basis than
>> ours (I believe). Our still are a 'commission from the Queen' and I think
>> yours somehow are based around Congress or some such? Your Warrant Officers
>> work a bit differently too than ours (British system) do. I'm always
>> interested in how different militaries operate as compared to the one I'm
>> more familiar with.
>> >
>>
>> Officers receive their commission by Act of Congress.
>>
>> Also note going to a specific service academy does not mean that said
>> Casey has to enter that specific service. I.e. A graduate of the army
>> academy could apply for open ensign position. Also note there are several
>> separate military academies VMI and the Citadel are two such examples.
>>
>> Evyn
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