[Misc comments interspersed]

On Saturday, July 4, 2020, 02:52:48 PM MST, <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

It's interesting that the Traveller model is not 'apply to a bunch of schools or find a job in essential areas or else get drafted'. Instead, it is 'try getting a job somewhere, and when you blow the first one... the government steals you!'. <rolls eyes>
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To those of us in the USA who grew up w/ 'the draft' in the US (like MM) it seems not out-of-the-ordinary.
But for the ImpGov? Not so much.
But, I could see local govs, depending upon gov-class, 'impressing' folks & maybe even sending out the good old 'press gangs'.
Or, as I heard in an old movie, "You all now compulsorily enlisted!".
These personnel could also be supplied to the local subsector's Colonial Forces either voluntarily or by requirement.
Also, there's also the Imperial Charter that each member world is granted.
There just might be a clause in there wrt supplying a certain number of recruits to the Imp Regulars w/o specifying exactly how that was to be done.
So, perhaps there are methane breathing units w/i the local, subsector, or imperial units stationed in Yebab's subsector/sector.
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Even peace-time work can lead odd places. I was a tech nerd and I joined an infantry unit because several of my friends from university (games club) were infanteers at the local reserve unit. So thus I became. I was so green I had no idea there was more than one trade and the intake NCM was all 'You want to be infantry, don't you? Of course you do!' so I wasn't going to say much. I'd have been a much better fit to be trying to get into a support role like weapons maintenance or going to the local comms/EW unit which would have been right up my alley (I even studied Russian in uni). 

Drafts, on the other hand, make for less effective militaries - or at least that's the theory of most advanced democracies (not all - the Swiss and Israelis and Swedes have national service). On the other hand, the UK, the US, and Canada don't. It would never have flown with Quebec in Canada and now with our cultural diversity, a lot of subsections of the society would have concerns about it and where they might be sent.
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Up to 1940, the US never had a peacetime draft. Up to then it had only been for wartime, but both the US & UK continued drafting (there was a short break in the US) for quite some time after WWII.
The US stopped early in 1973 while I believe that the UK stopped in 1964'
Years ago, on the old UseNet lists, someone commented that Canada had a draft during WWI but didn't during WWII due to "bad feelings" about the WWI experience.
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Usually, military reserves can be filled (to peacetime levels) with volunteers and a few retired regular force NCMs and officers. It's a good way to make some money for school if you aren't in the middle of a war.

And even if involuntary drafts make sense. they'd still only typically run half or one whole Traveller hitch (a Swedish friend was in their Air Force unit - kind of like Rangers - that worked in teams of 7 to 11 members with a dog - that were let loose in the rough lands around airbases if their was a crisis as they expected to have to hunt and kill Spetsnaz infiltrators - so they learned tracking, small unit combat, comms, animal handling, etc - 1 or 2 years training, a couple of years of active duty with the teams).

After that, you should have a choice.... nothing in the real world precludes me from applying for 20 careers and prior failures don't impact my chances.

Again, if you want to allow people to build towards what they want.

If your goal is to place something in front of them that they will be challenged to do something with, that's another perspective.




On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 5:00 PM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 04:19:05 PM MST, <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:37 PM Frank Filz <xxxxxx@mindspring.com> wrote:

I had not seen “pick your skills” until the past few years poking around the boards. No one who has played my games has expected to pick their skills (well, I suppose some might have, since my gaming is either play by post or Roll20, I don’t require people roll their characters up in front of me).

 

For the way I play, I don’t think I’d like having players pick skills, it would seem to lead to too much optimization.


Counterpoint: For most folk, at least some sizable part of our skills are a result of choices we made (sometimes the choices were 'learn this or not eat' but still a choice). Some people in our world are really thinly focused (others are all over the map).

Funnily enough, my main group had one or two that would focus on a key skill, but all the rest typically wanted 1 or 2 level 2+ and 1s and 0s in a lot of other skills. This was in the generous brownie-point enhanced MT expanded character generation. They could have built skill-4 and skill-5 focused characters with fewer skills, but after playing long enough, you tend as a player to want to be of general utility in almost every situation a) because you can't always tell which PCs will end up in the soup (so good to have broad skill ranges) and b) because they you can participate in more scenes effectively (vs. kind of watching from the sidelines).

My own self portrait:
Electronics-2 (college)
Computers-3 (college plus 15 years of work)
Mechanics-1 (my dad, spare time since)
Languages-2 (bits of many, some idea of parts of linguistics) (interest, some in university - French and Russian)
Physics-1 (university)
Chemistry-0 (university but not my best subject)
Brawling/Martial Arts-1 (5 years of 2-4 times a week 3 hour training sessions - karate and aikido)
Wheeled Vehicle-1 (owned a sports car for 13 years, didn't die)
Small Watercraft-1 (basic cruising, intermediate cruising training and practice from the CYA)
Handgun-1 (pistol club member, have a friend that's a gun guy)
Tactics-1 (wargaming, infantry training, studying spec ops and SWAT for a long time as a hobby)
Rifle-0 (infantry training, gun guy friend)
Small Blade-0 (interest ongoing in knife fighting)
Instruction-1 (taught at a college, learned how to do it right first)
Liaison-0 (contractor working with many different clients and government agencies)
Medical-1 (emergency first aid, CPR, lots of wound treatment practice, grew up with a nurse for a mother, looking at full EMT training)
Navigation-1 (coastal navigation course and grounside nav training)
Recon-0 (infantry training, paintball, and just generally learning how to be quite and watch in the wilds)
Stealth-1 (known for being sneaky - co-workers stuck me with 'the savage' because I constantly scared them just by my silent approach, plus military training, plus paintball)
Robotics-0 (college, pneumatic and electrical industrial robots and logic controllers)
Steward-1 (3 meals from scratch per day for a long time plus lots of practice and reading/watching chef shows)
Survival-0 (military training, survival training)
History-1 (major hobby focus, courses during my university time, study of classics from various eras, etc)

Of those, I chose to go to the schools (uni and college), to join the infantry reserve, to have a wide range of interests and friends with military, police, medical, and tech friends, worked in tech programming for many domains/projects, interested in sailing and going offshore (Lake Ontario, not the oceans). Interest in history pursued, ditto Steward. I chose to teach courses. I chose to go to gun ranges.

I can't think of much that I was just forced to take or that randomly came up. So pick the skills might not be crazy given that, though I have never done it as a GM or player.

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I think MM's experience with the 'draft' system in the USA may have influenced him here.

I heard so many a "stranger than truth" personal stories about how draftees wound up with their primary MOS that I finally had to believe them.
However, remember this, the 'draft' was only for 2 years active duty plus some years of reserve obligation that so many guys just blew off that it really was optional.
If a guy 're-upped' (3 years min for Army) then there almost always would be an option to apply (take a test) for something that you picked.

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