Hello again kaladorn,

I have this link for the TML archive http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/archives/TML_archives.html

Tom Tux
On May 6, 2020 at 7:18 AM xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:

I may have that CD and I'm not sure if I had a chance to look through it much. That's a good source of some of the earlier work.

It would be good. I'm sure that some of what was discussed in some times past would still have a relevance. The game itself has evolved, but not as fast as many others we could name, so there's bound to be some value even to stuff 2 decades back.

I'm reading stuff Andy Slack wrote way back in White Dwarf and finding some good stuff in there. One of the things that is of interest is some very different views on the Imperium. Others are just different approaches to careers and various things that were subsequently filled in by official rules (yet some of the early stuff went in interesting directions the published rules did not).

Anyway, we all get the 'one-day' list... me better than most.

TomB

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 8:53 AM Thomas Jones-Low < xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
        I have a copy of the HIWG CD which has copies of the TML archives from the
beginning to 1995 or so. I'm pretty sure there are at least two members of the
this list that have complete archives of not only the TML but several other
traveller lists.

        The full archives used to be up on the web in a couple of locations, but they
have faded from the active web, and may only be available in the wayback machine.

        I've thought about putting the archives I have up in the Traveller Wiki. This
would give it a newer permanent home as part of the history of Traveller. But,
like so many of the projects I have regarding the wiki it's not gotten beyond
the on-the-list phase.

On 5/6/2020 7:10 AM, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
> Would it be a useful thing to try to collect as much of what can be
> located/recovered and (if required) do some format adjustments to have a
> searchable version of the most complete archive we could create?
>
> Really, you'd want to, from, date sent, and the body plus any attached or
> embedded content if that was reasonable. You could lose a the rest of the mail
> headers I think.
>
> Would that be worth having?
>
> TomB
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020, 04:48 Jeff Zeitlin, < xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com
> <mailto: xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com>> wrote:
>
>     I was on the TML a long time before that, well before Eternal September
>     started. Unfortunately, I can no longer find the floppy disks I had with
>     TML archives on them in QWK format, from back when the TML was hosted at
>     the School of Engineering of the University of Western Ontario, list
>     manager James Perkins.
>
>     At the time, I attached to a BBS (The Executive Network Information System,
>      execnet.com < http://execnet.com>, now defunct and the domain resold) that
>     had internet email
>     access, and downloaded for offline use with a DOS program called SLMR.
>
>     On Tue, 5 May 2020 16:37:46 -0700, Greg Nokes < xxxxxx@nokes.name
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@nokes.name>> wrote:
>
>      >My oldest is from Nov 2004, and the address was xxxxxx@travellerrpg.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@travellerrpg.com> <mailto: xxxxxx@travellerrpg.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@travellerrpg.com>> - but I know that I was on the TML before
>     that - probably before gmail stored everything.
>      >
>      >> On May 5, 2020, at 4:15 PM, xxxxxx@gmail.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
>      >>
>      >> Thanks.
>      >>
>      >> With this, I have determined that I have an archive of tml messages from
>     the new list starting in 2012 and back to 2006 at travellercentral.com
>     < http://travellercentral.com> < http://travellercentral.com/>. 2006 to
>     mid-August 2007 I was on digests, but after that, its single messages.
>      >>
>      >> I see our current list's archives extend to 2007. Is there anywhere that
>     this Traveller central traffic lives? Should there be?
>      >>
>      >> Ironically, I saw a posting from 2007 on Alderson Disks/Discs....
>     clearly the wheel turns but just ends up at the same place ;)
>      >>
>      >> TomB
>      >>
>      >> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:49 PM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com
>     < http://yahoo.com> < http://yahoo.com/> (via tml list) < xxxxxx@simplelists.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@simplelists.com> <mailto: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@simplelists.com>>> wrote:
>      >> I just sent a private msg w/ the raw data from a TML msg from MAR2012
>     when the TML was at travellercentral.com < http://travellercentral.com>
>     < http://travellercentral.com/> ( xxxxxx@travellercentral.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@travellercentral.com> <mailto: xxxxxx@travellercentral.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@travellercentral.com>>).
>      >>
>      >> As I recall, Jon, who ran the site, wanted to retire that server which
>     meant the TML had to move.
>      >>
>      >> I also recall that he was in declining health.
>      >>
>      >> Anybody know how he's doing?
>      >>
>      >> I hope he's OK.
>      >>
>      >>
>     --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>      >>
>      >> On Tuesday, May 5, 2020, 08:54:11 AM MST, < xxxxxx@gmail.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@gmail.com> <mailto: xxxxxx@gmail.com
>     <mailto: xxxxxx@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> For some reasons, though I could be mistaken, I think this list may have
>     moved list-servers some time in the last decade.
>      >>
>      >> a) Do I recall that correctly?
>      >> b) If so, does anyone have the email address that the older list traffic
>     would have originated from?
>      >>
>      >> I'm getting ready to extract most of my mail from the auspices of the
>     Googles, so getting all the bits I want to save seems prudent.
>      >>
>      >> Lastly, is there an online mailing list archive that is searchable?
>      >>
>      >> Thanks,
>      >> TomB
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