On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:11 PM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
My father was a USAAF/USAF bomber pilot in WWII & Korea but he spent most of his career flying transports.
One time I heard a story from a US Army vet about how, sometimes, in an emergency ,the flight crew would bail out & leave the passengers behind.
I asked Dad & he had a good laugh.
He said it just wasn't allowed &, just to make sure, when they were carrying passengers, there were NO parachutes, on board.
All for one, & one for all!

I love these stories.

It's like the apocryphal story about the Gurkhas being approached by a British General to be dropped to behind enemy lines. When they asked for volunteers, only about a third volunteered. A reporter watching this was very unimpressed.

Years later, he met the one of the senior Gurkha NCOs. He pointed out he wasn't very impressed by what he saw. The NCO explained that they were asked again and more (maybe 3/4) would volunteer if the planes flew low and dropped them over a swampy area.

The British were still confounded. These men were always volunteers.

The NCO indicated that the General had made an assumption and that was the problem. The General talked about an air drop but none of the Gurkhas, growing up in Nepal, had ever seen or heard of a parachute.

So the 33% initial volunteering and the larger numbers if they could get the plane to fly low and jump out over a swamp.... those are high % if you don't know about parachutes.

Probably all part of the exaggerations about the Gurkhas (which they encourage as they have a sense of humour), but a great story.

Here's a real life basis from an Canadian Forces officer (retired) I know.

The Imperium is pulling a peace keeping mission out of a country on a balkanized world that has become hostile to the Imperial peace keepers.

The officer in charge and his small team proceed to the nearest spaceport and board a civilian passenger shuttle for the trip to the Highport.

Local paramilitary forces appear and surround the shuttle and the comms demand a member of the team be handed over to face charges. The officer is sure they are trumped up and that the now hostile government wants a bargaining chip.

The civilian pilots plan to obey.

The officer walks into the cabin of the shuttle, cocks his ACR, and says "You have two choices: Get this shuttle in the air immediately or I will dump you out of the vehicle and fly it out myself."

The crew decided they would fly out. 

The officer never mentioned they had no live rounds on the shuttle.

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Historical context: Egypt, CAF Major, Enfield Rifle.