On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Frank Norman wrote: > I have been following your perceptive and (to me) convincing > arguments about the merits and demerits of the e-biomed proposal > from Harold Varmus et al. > > In your posting on June 27th you said: > > > Quality control will continue to be an essential service, however, and its > > costs will be recoverable from S/L/P savings by abandoning the > > reader-institution-end trade model for an author-institution-end > > publication-charge model that is far more suited to this very anomalous > > and special form of literature: the refereed research corpus. > > If this comes to pass, I can envisage that the more highly > prestigious titles (Science, Nature, Cell etc) will demand higher > publication charges than journals lower down the hierarchy. Indeed, > it may be that there is a very substantial premium to be accepted > by the most prestigious titles. One effect of this could be to > prevent less well-financed research groups from publishing in high- > prestige journals. They'll be able to access the content of such > journals for free but will not be able to afford to publish in them. > > Is this how you see things working out? How could this outcome > be circumvented? > > Frank Norman National Institute for Medical Research > Acting Librarian The Ridgeway, Mill Hill > London NW7 1AA, UK > tel 0208 959 3666 ext 2380 email fnorman@nimr.mrc.ac.uk > fax 0208 913 8534 http://www.nimr.mrc.ac.uk/personal/Frank Nothing like this will happen; it is based on a misunderstanding of peer review -- and of what it is that makes the prestigious journals prestigious, and hence makes authors prefer to submit papers to them rather than elsewhere: The prestige of the top journals is based on their quality, which in turn depends on their quality-control standards: They only accept the very best papers (and their typically high rejection rates and citation impact factors reflect this). (They are not "designer labels," for the patina of which a "consumer" is willing to pay more!) The way high standards of quality are maintained is through rigorous peer review: One cannot BUY success in that process; authors must EARN it (by doing high quality work). Otherwise the prestigious journals would simply lose their prestige (and be replaced by other, more rigorously refereed journals, that recaptured their standards, and THEREBY the best papers [no, they will not LOWER their charges to capture to higher-prestige authors either! this sort of market-thinking is all based on the wrong, old, reader/consumer-end model: or, to put it another way, the "competition" in this highly anomalous, nontrade, research literature is for high-quality papers, not for author-dollars.]). On the contrary, it is much lower down in the peer review hierarchy, as one approaches the vanity press, that some abuse of the author-end system is conceivable: Authors may try to buy their way into the pages of low-quality journals when they have failed to earn their way into the high-quality ones. But, frankly, I don't find this at all worrisome! Vanity publications are apparent to everyone; they wear the result (low quality) on their sleeves (and their contents, their authorships, their rejection rates and their impact factors); and such journals already exist today, where the "subsidy" currently comes on the reader-institution-end rather than the author-institution-end -- everyone knows which ones they are, and that "caveat emptor" prevails when it comes to deciding whether to read them or rely on what they report. http://helix.nature.com/webmatters/invisible/invisible.html The costs of submitting to the high-quality journals will be close to the true costs of implementing peer review, for that is all it will involve (and the peers do not request or receive remuneration; they referee according to the Golden Rule: it is only the IMPLEMENTATION of the refereeing that incurs some cost); it is the vanity press that may have to bribe referees (at the author's cost). (Unaffiliated authors, with no institution to fund them out of annual windfall S/L/P-cancelation savings and no funding agency to cover the minuscule publication costs can be funded from collective publication slush funds established for this purpose at the journal or suprajournal level. So this too should not detain us.) Let me close with two further points: (1) It is inadvisable to try to second-guess outcomes in this way; it is all too hypothetical, and for everything we think of in advance, there will no doubt be several unexpected contingencies we didn't think of. This isolated single-variable second-guessing simply helps entrench the status quo, because so many people have vested interests in retaining it -- or merely prefer to do and change nothing. So forget about author-end page charges! They will sort themselves out. The ONLY salient thing at this moment is the absolutely unambiguous desideratum that all authors should self-archive their refereed papers NOW and ensure that no copyright agreement ventures to block that capability. That will effectively free the journal literature. The rest will take care of itself. (2) There is another Harnad, not myself, but a mathematical physicist by the name of John Harnad <harnad@alcor.concordia.ca> (and the one who first drew my attention to the Ginsparg Archive way back in the early '90's). J. Harnad has some further recommendations on the subject of referee answerability and compensation: He recommends that (a) all referees should be paid to referee papers; (b) payment for a rejected paper should be minimal (say, $200), but payment for an accepted paper should be commensurate with the effort of seeing it through the successive revisions (say, $2000) to successful publication; and, to avoid the potential abuse discussed above, (c) if a paper is accepted, the name of the accepting referee(s) should be co-published with it, to share the responsibility, praise or blame. He feels this would raise the quality of the refereeing and make the entire process much more answerable, hence effective, than it is now. Obviously this proposal is compatible with the transition from reader-institution-end payment to author-institution-end payment, but it is an as yet untested peer-review reform proposal; all such reform proposals need to be tested empirically and practically before being implemented on any scale. Hence it should not detain us on the road to freeing the CURRENT refereed literature, such as it is. (I also think that there is not enough money in the world to pay fairly for the precious time that referees steal from their own research in order to do the mostly thankless task of peer review; hence the Golden Rule is probably the only one we can continue to rely on! SUBMISSION charges, creditable toward PUBLICATION charges should the paper be accepted, may not be a bad idea to levy on authors, though, with or without referee payment, for it to might help raise submission standards and even revision conscientiousness, hence perhaps even lightening some of the burden on the work-horse referees; but this too would need pre-testing.) Stevan Harnad harnad@cogsci.soton.ac.uk Professor of Cognitive Science harnad@princeton.edu Department of Electronics and phone: +44 2380 592-582 Computer Science fax: +44 2380 592-865 University of Southampton http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/ Highfield, Southampton http://www.princeton.edu/~harnad/ SO17 1BJ UNITED KINGDOM ftp://ftp.princeton.edu/pub/harnad/