-----(1) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 10:30:44 -0400 From: Otto Sillius <otto.sillius@SHERIDANC.ON.CA> Subject: Re: EBSCO I have used EBSCO/CANEBSCO for the past 23 years and have had no complaints, great service and reps! Otto Sillius Sheridan College Library Oakville, Ontario -----(2) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 08:39:55 -0700 From: Caitlin Downing <cdowning@LOGOS.SANTAROSA.EDU> Subject: EBSCO SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES (Vicki Combs) Dear Vicki: I agree wholeheartedly with you. I love my rep, Luis, at the San Mateo branch of EBSCO. He gives me friendly, easy to understand advice, resolves my claims (sometimes this takes several phone calls to recalcitrant publishers) and has been my best ally is sorting through the problems that have arisen through the recent addition of our branch library. I'd be lost without him. Fortunately we have been lucky to have him with us for awhile. When there is a lot of turnover in a service company things can fall through the cracks. Overall I am very happy with the Service EBSCO has provided. Their service rep, Susan Paulson has come to our library once a year to make sure all is going well and to find out if we have any special needs or would like any reports run. I also agree that EBSCO has helped me learn my job - what to watch out for, how to determine what to claim, how some of the problems with publishers arise in the first place, how to deal with companies that bill us for subscriptions we never ordered, etc. Caitlin Downing cdowning@logos.santarosa.edu ****************************************************************************** -----3 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 12:00:49 -0500 From: Stephen Clark <sdclar@janus.swem.wm.edu> Subject: Re: New Periodicals Librarian... (3 messages) I am finding this entire discussion very interesting. Over the past 28 years that I have worked with serials, starting as a student assistant and working my way up to being a department head, I have had varying experience with two periodicals vendors -- Faxon and EBSCO. It is obvious from the "playing field" of vendors that both of these vendors, as well as the other vendors out there, that all of the vendors are doing something right for some of their clients. Otherwise, they would not be in business. As a matter of fact, my very first contact with EBSCO was not complimentary at all. I also acknowledge that since that time, the level of service that EBSCO provides has changed and that this company has a great deal to offer. Faxon's service has also been variable in the past. Regarding our situation at the present, they have made great strides in solving the problems which we have been having. Some of the problems that Faxon was experiencing several years ago were alluded to earlier in this discussion. From my experience, those times are past. We (Faxon and the College of William and Mary) are continuing to have fruitful conversations resolving problems as well as setting a new direction of service. I have to agree with some of the statements made previously to the effect that a great deal of one's service depends on the service and account representatives with whom one deals. This makes a tremendous amount of difference as to what you receive, if you receive anything at all. The level of service which this library has gotten from vendors for firm orders, standing orders, approvals, and serials has been determined in many instances by the representatives in the office and field. References are an important part of deciding who to use as a vendor, but make sure that you ask questions of the references. Very detailed questions. Ask about how a vendor can handle some areas with which you are having problems, but also ask about areas which you take for granted now -- you do not want to pick up a new set of problems just to solve some others. Do not forget to be objective about your analysis. This is sometimes difficult, but it is essential that you do not become swayed just because you like the sales rep. or the way he/she made a presentation. You have to look much deeper than that. The fact that all Virginia state supported institutions have to send out Requests for Proposals (RFPs) has helped us in looking at services and prices with more open and non-judgemental eyes. So, keep your eyes and ears open, but also make sure that you do some in-depth, objective research before you make your decision. Stephen Clark -- Stephen D. Clark phone: 757-221-3107 Acquisitions Librarian fax: 757-221-2535 Earl Gregg Swem Library e-mail: sdclar@mail.swem.wm.edu P.O. Box 8794 Williamsburg, VA 23187-8794 -----(4) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:15:45 -0500 From: _Laurie _Nalepa <NALEPA@JCVAXA.JCU.EDU> Subject: Re: New Periodicals Librarian seeking vendor info. (Anne Stovall) We are just now going through the process of evaluating our "vendor situation." I would be glad to share the steps we went through in the process. Please e-mail me direct or Phone: (216) 397-1646. Good Luck with everything!! -----(5) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:01:33 +0800 From: Lea delos Reyes <ldelosreyes@irri.cgnet.com> Subject: Re: New Periodicals Librarian Seeking Vendor Information (6 messages) We are previously are a customer of EBSCO but changed vendor last year. The problems we had were mostly about the delay in delivery and claims. We are now dealing with Swets Subscription Agency and they are great. We received the journals on time and claiming late issues are very easy. They have this wonderful service called the "Fast delivery" service where all journals are delivered in one package every month. Lea delos Reyes ------------------------------------------------------------------- Library and Documentation Service International Rice Research Institute P.O. Box 933, 1099 Manila, Philippines Tel: (63-2) 845-0563. Fax: (845-0606) Ariel IP: 198.93.230.21 E-mail: ldelosreyes@irri.cgnet.com http://ricelib.irri.cgiar.org or http://www.cgiar.org/irri -------------------------------------------------------------------- IRRI is one of 16 Centers supported by the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research (CGIAR) -----(6) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:09:40 GMT From: Lesley Tweddle <LTWEDDLE@AUCEGYPT.EDU> Subject: VENDORS DEBATE - MY 10c Earlier this year I posted to the List because the trouble we were having with one of our vendors (we use four!) had got bad enough that I felt out of my depth. Quite a few people replied to me, and although I didn't name the unsatisfactory vendor, most of them guessed who it was and were having troubles of their own. The neatest thing that anyone said by way of summing up their discontent was, that no-one at management level had contacted them or expressed an intent to handle the problem/s. Vendors read this list! Once they noticed that my posting had aroused a response, two of our vendors got in touch with me. One was the UV that I was complaining about. Why had I not complained to the UV, why to the List? I said, who do I complain to? This bit matters, fellow-librarians and List-monitoring vendors. Read On! A normal librarian has no reason to believe her (excuse sexism) normal contact-person is malevolent or incompetent. We know, from our own experience of ordering direct, that many suppliers part with their publications as if they were losing teeth. What we suspect is that our contact-person is overloaded with tasks and just does not have time to chase, and re-chase, and keep letting us know that this is what she is doing. We know that vendors are trying to save costs. We suspect this may be at the expense of just the kind of service that makes us appreciate them. Or, or Also, we suspect that our poor contact-person doen not have good managerial backing. If she keeps getting messages from us that indicate we are more and more fed-up with the problems we're experiencing, has she been trained not to keep all this to herself, but to alert a management-level person? In the case of our UV, once a management-level person (several, actually) got involved, we were able to resolve the big problems and are now back to our normal contact-person again. In the case of another vendor who was not U, I am worrying that they may become U, precisely because the response from our normal contact-person has dwindled over the years, from being same-day to being late or never, and (in my opinion) management have not realised the seriousness of our concern about a particular issue. How many (non-Government) libraries automatically go for the vendor which offers the cheapest rates? The kind of staff contact we need, requires high staffing levels in the vendor's offices, and those don't come cheap. What do the vendors have to say about all this? Lesley Tweddle Serials Librarian American University in Cairo Library