6 messages: 1)____ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:18:49 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Borries <MSBBH@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: Re: Issue Specific Holdings Question (Allen Williams) I believe the 515 field in the MARC record is intended to deal with this problem, among others. If this happens too many times, of course, the note gets rather lengthy and almost unreadable; in those cases I have used a general note, e.g., "Many issues not published." Also, if it happens very often, a note in the 310 field can be used, e.g. "Monthly (irregular)" with more detailed information in the 515. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 555 West 57th Street, 16th Floor New York, NY 10019 msbbh@cunyvm.cuny.edu (212) 541-0376 2)_____ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:54:13 -0800 (PST) From: Bud Sonka <bsonka@nunic.nu.edu> Subject: Re: Issue Specific Holdings Question (Allen Williams) Allen, I have serials collections in nine libraries scattered around California, and we depend heavily on ILL for resource sharing amoung them, so specific holdings statements are essential to us. Based on our experience, I would agree that your use of the semicolon is misleading because it is unnecessary. If it is known that seven issues complete a volume of a title that is normally 12 issues per volume, it is still a complete volume. There are two reasons for indicating broken volumes: the first is so that library users will know you don't have missing issues; the second is so that you know to account for the missing issues when (or if) you bind the volume. But your case should be considered by taking the scenario back a couple of steps. If an issue never existed, it will never be cited in a footnote or bibliography or citational database. If it is never cited, it will not be sought by researchers. So why go out of your way to point out nonexistent issues in your holdings statement? To avoid the potential for confusion of the sort you are experiencing, in our system we add explanatory notes for our technical staff as well as an OPAC note saying simply "v. x n. x - z never published". Bud Sonka Head, NULS Serials Unit National University Library System 3)_____ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:19:15 -0500 From: Karen Nadeski <knadeski@MEDUSA.SBS.UMASS.EDU> Subject: Re: Issue Specific Holdings Question (Allen Williams) I do not have a problem with using the semicolon to show breaks in your holdings, but I would not use it to reflect publishing irregularities. I would place this information in a 515 field as you have suggested and leave the holdings statement open, i.e., v. 45: no. 1 (1995: Jan.)- Karen Nadeski 4)_____ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:45:45 +0000 From: Kathy Bowersox <bowersox@SUBR.CMQ.COM> Subject: Re: Issue Specific Holdings Question (Allen Williams) Allen, I recently completed a serials conversion project at a different university which used the item-specific level 4 holdings statements. This is the type of reasoning/solution I came up with for these punctuation problems: The semicolon with no spaces indicates a significant change (e.g., new series) as opposed to a gap in holdings. The use of semicolon can be confusing, even when properly used to signal a change, so I don't use it unless absolutely necessary. Say your journal (which you hold complete save for the last issue of v.44) used only month and year from 1951-1990, decided to add voluming (calling it v.41) in Jan. 1991. This is not considered significant change; do not give any special treatment. The condensed MHLD would read: 1951-v.44:no.11(1994:Nov.), v.45(1995)- Gaps in holdings are indicated with the comma-space. If the publisher can't decide how many issues will make up a volume but continues to send you complete volumes, the most precise statement of your holdings would simply show the truth . You "have it all." v.45:no.1(1995:Jan.)- Yes, some kind of mention must be made of those "not-really-missing" issues. The bib record has a wonderful note field (515 Numbering Peculiarities) which is used for actual numbering oddities. I'm leaning toward a 500 note (Vol. 46 complete in 7 issues) for this issuance hiccup. Think of the bib record as holding the interesting (embarrassing?) information so that the more public holdings statement need not make mention of the publisher's "difficulties" . Could we call this "discreet accuracy"? Kathy "Sox" -- the serials cataloger from hell -- Kathy Bowersox bowersox@subr.cmq.com Cataloging Librarian Office: (504) 771-2863 John B. Cade Library Fax: (504) 771-41-13 Southern University Baton Rouge, LA 70813 5)_____ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:30:07 -0500 From: Jerri Handy <jhandy@CTS.EDU> Subject: Issue level holdings. As I see it there are two parts to Allen Williams question. 1. What are the needs of the patrons. In this instance listing the holdings as complete is all they need to know. When they look at the holdings record to see if there is a particular issue they will be looking for something that is referenced somewhere. There will not be a reference for issues that were not published. 2. What are the needs of the Serials Librarian. We look at things differently. When we look at our holdings on the shelf we see things like having a different number of issues in a volume and notice the difference. We want to know are we missing something? Did the publisher change something? Is this a permanent change or an unexplained temporary change? For Us, there is a need to know the particulars for changes in publication cycles. It affects our check in program, claiming, and causes us to wonder how to note our discovery so that those behind us do not have to figure out what happened with this particular publication. The short answer....Do both. List the discovery in a 5xx field and show the holdings as complete for the patrons. It takes both to accurately reflect the particulars of this publication. 6)_____ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:56:11 -0500 From: kpetsche@CHAMPION.IUPUI.EDU Subject: Re: Issue Specific Holdings Question (Allen Williams) Allen, I wouldn't change my holdings to reflect a gap, since there is no gap. Adding a 515 note such as: "Vol. 45 (1996) contains only 7 issues." (as best as I can do off the top of my head). I also thought of adding a 321 note to show a change of frequency (e.g. 7 no. a year, |b 1996) but if the publisher just had a "problem", then I think a 515 note would be more appropriate. Hope this helps. Kevin Kevin Petsche Copy Cataloger IUPUI Indianapolis, IN