First, thanks to all those who responded to my initial inquiry/tale of woe re : no longer receiving a print version of the index to Science for binding purposes. Respondents included Sarah Stevens-Rayburn, Space Telescope Science Institute (Baltimore, MD); Bob Kowalski, Genetics Institute, who articulated some important questions that I share below with all SERIALSTers; Ingrid Moss, Peace College; Kimberly J. Laird, Quillen College of Medicine, East Tennessee State University; Daphne Greenwood, American Society for Microbiology; and John Sack, HighWire Press, Stanford University. Thanks to the initial help I received from those named above, I now have my copy of the index, & I have only today contacted the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) directly to express my concerns. I still plan to share their reply later if I receive one & if it seems appropriate. Meanwhile, here is what I have learned so far, verbatim from those who sent answers (I've also included Daphne Greenwood#s email address, in case others on the list want to respond directly to her concerns): We were led astray by their badly organized page initially too, but in fact one can download/print the real volume index from http://www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/aindex.shl I got there from http://www.sciencemag.org/ choosing "Browse and search full text" there which led to http://www.sciencemag.org/browse.shtml and from there chose "Author index by volume" which led to the url. --------------------- Thanks for the heads up on this future headache of an issue. There are a couple of issues to address here : ~ What about those w/o internet access? What about those who browse the shelves (either w/ or w/o internet access.) ~ Will prices of the print be decreasing as a result of less value (a journal with as many articles as Science really really needs an index--its like telling someone new to a big city to find things without a map.) ~ Any chance of those requesting a print index receiving one? Or what about making it available in print but with less (or more?) frequency ~ Is this decision a cost / convenience issue? For what party's benefit? I look forward to any replies that come your way, as well as to what the AAS has to say about this. Again, thank you. ----------------------- Maybe this answer is too simplistic, but can't you rely on a broader index such as Medline or Biological Abstracts to handle the indexing for Science? Science is indexed by so many different index titles-it would seem like the patrons would use one or more of these broader indexes rather than relying exclusively on the journal Science for indexing. ---------------------- Someone asked whether it was really worth worrying about the index for Science... In my opinion it is and that's based on having to help a student locate citations for a paper he had to write. Admittedly, it was his fault that he was in a hurry & didn't have time to formulate an adequate search, but the point is that the book chapter he was using to find relevant citations from the bibliography had very badly mangled citations. If it hadn't been for the indexes in the backs of the journals, we would not have found what he needed, quickly. We could've searched MEDLINE, but there's no guarantee that the titles of the articles weren't equally badly mangled, as were the journal titles & sources. (e.g Journal of Physiology instead of American Journal of Physiology, wrong combinations of co-authors, etc. etc.> Plus if you're trying to verify citations for someone, its always best to use the actual piece, rather than relying on databases to do the work for you. Using the journal's own index to look things up is far better than browsing the table of contents for each issue.... --------------------------- I'd be interested in the responses that you receive to your e-mail. I forwarded yours to HighWire, the producer of Science's on-line journal. We are considering HighWire as a vendor to put our journals on-line in 1998, so I was interested to learn about their features from librarian's perspective. Since we will be going on-line in 1998, I'm anxious to learn as much as I can about what works or doesn't work for on-line journals. Best, Daphne Greenwood Marketing Manager, Journals American Society for Microbiology dgreenwood@asmusa.org ----------------------- A colleague passed your note on to me. You apparently didn't find your way to the proper volume index, but found your way to the issue index. The volume index is a PDF that is identical to what used to appear in print. You can locate it by going to the home page of Science Online click on Browse and Search Full Text click on Author Index By Volume or, you can click on "special features and data" from the home page, too. [and, in response to the further questions that I had once I had received the above reply, I was told:] Adobe Acrobat Reader is free, and is available online at www.adobe.com PDF is Portable Document Format. ---------------------- P.S. So I now have a copy of the index & can send my volume to the bindery, but I first had to enlist the help of a generous person in our hospital Info. Systems Dept. to download the Adobe Acrobat Reader & then access it, so that I could actually see the needed PDF document (the index) to print it. The whole process caused a time delay - my original query was more than 2 weeks ago - & involved numerous additional steps that were never necessary "in the good old days" (i.e., as recently as last year), when I would simply receive the index in print in the final issue of each volume. Someone on this or another library list uses as part of her signature a quotation that says "Technology is wonderful only when it works correctly." To that I would offer a corollary : "and only when it helps us be more, rather than less, productive and efficient in our work!" Natalie L. Gorvine, Library Assistant The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia Medical Library, Room 2180 34th Street and Civic Center Boulevard Philadelphia, PA 19104-4399 (215) 590-2317 fax : (215) 590-1470 email : gorvine@email.chop.edu