messages 1-8, 218 lines: (1)------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:34:53 -0500 From: Ann Lucas - Thomas Cooley Law School <lucasann@MLC.LIB.MI.US> Subject: Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes Comments: To: Annalisa Van Avery <AV691@CNSVAX.ALBANY.EDU> Annalisa: We have been putting page numbers on the spines our bound volumes for many years, for exactly the reasons your professor outlined. Citation tracking is pretty important to academic law library folks, so this seems like a logical way for us to help. Ann Lucas Serials Librarian Thomas M. Cooley Law Library P.O. Box 13038 Lansing, MI 48901 "They say "Time flies," but how can you? They go by at such irregular intervals!" Ph: 517-371-5140, ext.608 Fax: 517-334-5715 email: lucasann@mlc.lib.mi.us ----------- On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Annalisa Van Avery wrote: > We have received an interesting request from a biology professor. > He says that when a periodical which is consecutively paged through the > whole volume or year, and voluminous enough to need binding in several > parts, we should be putting page numbers on the spines. He says, "The > standard way of expressing references is by page number, not by the no. > of the issue within a volume. Not having the pages available on the > outside of the binding is very disruptive -- I find myself pulling out > several bound volumes from the shelf when I need only one. It is very > time consuming for the researcher." > > We have not been printing page numbers on the spines; we usually > use the variants as they appear on the issues -- issue numbers, months, > etc. Some reference index/abstracts will have abst. numbers, but most > commonly it will be "no.1-6" and "no.7-12," or "Jan.-Mar.," "Apr.-June," > etc. I asked our bindery if many libraries used page numbers on the > spine, and they said a few do, but they are mostly medical libraries, > not the college and university libraries. > > I would be interested in hearing from other libraries -- have > your patrons been asking for page numbers? Do you use them for multi- > part volumes? Is this a service that would make our patrons really > happy? I guess what I am really asking is, is this just one cranky > customer, or a genuine good idea? It would not raise the bind price, > but of course it would create some more clerical work for the bind prep > people. > Annalisa Van Avery > Periodicals Cataloger and Head, Phys. Proc. & Bindery > SUNY Albany av691@cnsvax.albany.edu (2)------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:16:35 EST From: Brad Coon <coon@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU> Subject: Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes We put them on a few, but its a case by case thing. No one has ever asked about for them on other titles and we do the ones we do do that way because we always have, good reason eh? Practically speaking, it would seem to greatly increase the potential for errors and we have enough of those thank you, ************************************************************** Brad Coon If you are not living on COON@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU the edge, you are taking http://cvax.ipfw.indiana.edu/~coon/ up too much space. "Civilize the mind and make savage the body." Chinese proverb *************************************************************** (3)--------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:55:46 EST From: MS_RESPASS <mrespass@GEORGIAN.EDU> Subject: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes Comments: To: serialst@uvmvm.uvm.edu To: Multiple recipients of list SEREDIT <SEREDIT@UVMVM.UVM.EDU> I would be interested in hearing from other libraries -- have your patrons been asking for page numbers? Do you use them for multi- part volumes? yes Is this a service that would make our patrons really happy? yes I guess what I am really asking is, is this just one cranky customer, or a genuine good idea? good idea It would not raise the bind price, but of course it would create some more clerical work for the bind prep people.Once it is set up, it takes little additional time. We do this generally for selected science titles that are bound multi-volume with continuous paging--exactly what your professor was asking. Students find it much easier to find articles--which gives relief to the reference desk. Marie Respass Georgian Court College Lakewood, NJ mrespass@georgian.edu (4)------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:47:22 EST From: Karen Douglas <kdouglas@BURNS.NLC.GWU.EDU> Organization: Jacob Burns Law Library Subject: Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes We probably bind on a much smaller scale than you do (about 1200 titles), but we do use page numbers on the spine when we split a volume. The citations, especially in law reviews do contain page numbers and volumes, rather than issue numbers. We put page numbers as follows: the first part would be PP. 1-485; the second or last part would be PP. 486-END, so the patron knows that that is the last part of the volume. This practice was already in place when we took over the bindery function from Circulation, but it makes sense. Finding page numbers is easy because for virtually all of our law reviews and probably other scholarly journals, the range of pages is listed on the spine of the issue. Hope this helps. Karen B. Douglas Acquisitions/Serials Librarian Jacob Burns Law Library George Washington University Washington, DC 202-994-8550 202-994-2874 -fax KDouglas@Burns.nlc.gwu.edu (5)--------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:54:55 -0500 From: Betty Tobias <tobias@URVAX.URICH.EDU> Subject: Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes At the Science Library, University of Richmond, we have been putting page numbers on volumes that are bound in parts since I began work here in the early 1980's. Most science citations do include page numbers, and not the months so it is easier for patrons to find the needed information. We use months on volumes that individually page each issue. ********************************* Betty B. Tobias Library Associate Science Library University of Richmond, VA 23173 (804)289-8787 (804)289-8482 (FAX) e-mail btobias@richmond.edu (6)------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:53:18 -0500 From: Kira Haimovsky <UL_HAIMOVSKY@RHODA.FORDHAM.EDU> Subject: Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes Annalisa, Here at Fordham University Library in New York we always put page numbers on the spines of multi-part volumes, most of them are science journals. It does really help and we are glad to provide this service for our patrons. It requires some additional time from the bindery clerk, but not much. So I would encourage you to follow this practice. Kira Haimovsky Head of Serials Fordham University Library (7)------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:56:48 -0400 From: "Marie Doyle, Binding, Bata Library Trent University" <MDOYLE@TRENTU.CA> Subject: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes At Trent University we follow the rules that your bindery prep people and bindery have set up. There might be 5 to 6 titles that are bound with page numbering on the spine...usually because of previous binding pattern long established. We have, on occasion, dropped the page numbering to go to issue numbering (as is according to our standard procedure) and have had no feed-back from the user. The definitive answer would be to check the major index for that title and use what they use to index the title on the spine. I think the majority of titles are well identified with vol. number, issue no. and year on the spine. ***************************************************************** * Internet: MDoyle@Trentu.Ca Trent University * * T.J.Bata Library * * Marie Doyle Peterborough, Ont * * Binding Canada * ***************************************************************** (8)---------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:09:45 -0500 From: "Geraldine H. Wescott" <wescott@LYCO.LYCOMING.EDU> Subject: Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes Annalisa: We're a small (1500 students) liberal arts college. I noticed a number of years ago that students were looking for articles more by the pages than by the months or numbers of the issues so on those journals that are consecutively paged, I changed to putting the page numbers on the spines to help them out. They need all the help they can get! 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