2 messages, 224 lines: ------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 12:45:44 -0400 From: Diana Marshall <marshd@SAGE.EDU> Subject: Re: Compact Shelving and serial togetherness. On Thu, 21 Sep 1995, Mike Beier wrote: > The BYU library is expanding and will be > centralizing all bound and unbound periodicals into a > large(!) room in the new addition. This room will be on > the second level, and this question has arisen during the > planning stages; do we want to reinforce the floor during > the initial construction to accommodate the extra weight > of compact shelving, should we find the need for CS down > the road. Of course this would raise the initial costs, > but it would be much cheeper than a retro-fit later. I > was wondering how many of my fellow netters have > experience with compact shelving and would be willing to > share their experiences. We, at the Sage Colleges house our bound periodicals and loose periodicals together in the basement of the library. Weight is not a problem. > Question 2. If you have a central periodicals area > do you keep the bound and unbound issues together in a > call number or alphabetical sequence, or do you have all > unbound materials separate from the bound issues? Do any > of my serials colleagues have experience with shelving > bound and unbound serials together in a central > periodicals location? Our periodicals are arranged alphabetically. We have bound volumes on the shelf in numerical order and the loose issues are kept next to them in Princeton files. When the file is full and/or the volume is complete, we bind the volume. We have tried to allow for five years' growth on the shelves. This is very hard to figure. With adding new or changed titles, or allowing for publishers' vagaries, five years' growth is sometimes used faster than the space allotted. Then we weed and either discard (i.e. sell to O/P dealers) or move to a holding area. Then the titles are out of the way, but still accessible for students who need to use them. Hope this helps. Diana Marshall <marshd@SAGE.EDU> ---------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:49:25 -0400 From: Bill Benson <bensonwo@MAILGW.WL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> Subject: Compact Shelving - Lessons Learned To Mike and other interested SERIALSTS, Compact Shelving - Lessons Learned I have worked with movable vendor companies selling Kardex and Spacesaver, but not on a 2nd floor. However, I supervised the move of a small library (40,000 volumes) to a 2nd floor while in Nurnberg, Germany, and have overseen three large movable shelving projects (8,000 volumes, 15,000 volumes and 10,000 volumes at this Library). We are still working on the latter project. Here's what I've learned. You can get VERY different prices from the vendors, and save considerable $$$. Shop around! However, the final set up may not be exactly what you started off with. If they put the shelving on a concrete floor, it needs to be sealed beforehand, or at least have plastic placed over it. The concrete accumulates moisture and can cause the wooden floor sections to buckle. In lieu of this, or perhaps in addition, consider having them leave a small gap between the panels for moisture expansion. *Note - when I use the word shelves, I am referring to the single (normally 3 foot) shelves. When I use the word shelving, I am referring to an entire "bookcase" (normally made up of 6 or 7 three foot shelves), or I am speaking of an entire set of bookcases. Be sure you tell them if you want backing, tops, sides, dividers, etc. Assume nothing. Take a look at what type of ramp you will have. The flooring of the movable shelving sits up about an inch or so above the regular floor. Decide if you can live with the normally UGLY wooden flooring or want tile or carpet over it. If you are like us, some other company will probably put it in. If the shelving folks say they can cut through your present carpet and put the tracks down, don't believe them. I did, and am now minus one nice carpet. Realize that the tracks run in-between the shelving and will cause problems when you need to run booktrucks over them, unless you get thick tile or carpet. With smaller lengths of shelving this is not much of a problem. If you have a lot to move, figure on breaking at least one bookcart. Going up and down ramps and over the tracks can be pretty hard on the wheels. If there are left over shelving sections, how will that be handled? There are almost always leftovers! Can you get a credit? If they goof and are short on shelf parts, how long will it take them to get replacements? They are sometimes short some parts too! Hey, this is fun, huh! I suggest you buy a light portable ladder, available from Gaylord, etc. for reaching the top shelves. Be sure YOU get to decide how far apart the shelves will be. ________ | | -------- | | -------- | | | | ________ Some shelving has shelves that can be placed anywhere, but once they are placed, can not be easily moved again (my current project - and this was NEWS to me!). Some shelving is movable whenever you want to move them, except perhaps for one center shelf that might be bolted to the sides. Tops are good for keeping the dust down, but some people leave them off and can get seven highs out of the standard six high setup. I have decided, after several leaks in one storage room, that I like tops. I am also amazed at how much dust (black, yucky stuff) comes out of our "air handlers!" If your shelving will be used a lot (versus storage of barely used materials) consider the 'sliding factor.' If the shelving companies were smart they would put a special tape on the outside edges of the shelves to eliminate books sliding out when a stack of shelves was quickly moved. If possible check out someone's movable shelving to see how they move. I have even moved them fast enough to jump the tracks - WOW! There are different gear ratios for the manual systems, and some are better than others. I believe the installers can change these, but it is a bit late after they have finished a few dozen. And you won't know exactly what the movement is like until you have loaded the shelves - empty shelves act much differently than loaded ones. Electronic motorized movement is an option, and all systems now built should have sensors so that no one can be hurt by someone else pushing a button. On reinforcing the floor - you betcha!!! You should have professional engineers check the flooring and determine exactly what it can hold - get it in writing! I have serious doubts as to whether most 2nd story floors can handle the weight of a normal library (i.e. with aisles), let alone movable shelving which doubles the weight. When we moved the library in Germany to the 2nd floor, most customers liked our new setup better than where we had been, so we wanted to stay, but the engineers would not allow it due to their doubts about the strength of the structure over the long haul. How level is your flooring? How level will it be once there is tons of weight on it? We are lucky and have very thick concrete floors. However, they are uneven enough that the installers had to raise the tracks an inch or more in places. Even though they were careful at this, we still have some "independent!" stacks that will roll down the tracks and try to squish us, if we don't keep them locked. (I need to ask if they can correct this.) Other problems - We have one room where we left the center empty for storage of boxes, etc. This means we have track work that ends near the middle of the room. The way installers finish up the ends is important in these situations. They normally cannot put ramps there, but they need to make smooth ends so no one trips or cuts themselves! Bright yellow or orange, paint or tape, may also be in order, to alert customers of a potentially dangerous situation. On labeling - Yes, you will need to label the stored items so the shelvers can get them back to their correct homes. We used round colored dots made by Avery that are sold in most office supply stores. They were easy to peel off and to put on, and when we went to a second storage area, I could have used another color..... But guess what - after labeling all 15,000, I read the fine print and found that they were "removable" dots. So over the years, some do fall off, but we have learned to live with it. We keep a box of labels on the journal return cart just in case. Try to use more permanent sticking labels, unless you think you might be moving journal sets that prove popular back to the main collection. One alternative would be to make a mask and spray paint them somehow. This would be fast, but would of course be quite permanent. I suggest you have the labelers use a cataloger's bone tool to help the staff reinforce the labels. Just had a *** NEW IDEA ***! Use blank labels from a Circulation Desk type labeler! They will stick better, can be quickly added, and could be removed if needed! If you end up with left over shelving space, you can always use it as a holding area for other excess materials, or supplies. We later moved some other journals and now refer customers to the rooms "West End." It causes some confusion, but its better than wasting the space. If possible, have the library shelvers write down the titles being reshelved in the storage area, and keep this on file, either manually, or in a database. Then you will be able to tell 1) what is popular and needs to be put back with the main collection, and 2) what can be permanently weeded someday. Our latest shelving project cost $27,000 and will hold about 10,000 bound volumes. $3,000 of this was for installation. When we moved the 15,000 volumes we counted all bound volumes, and came up with an average of 20.15 bound volumes per shelf. These are mostly scientific and technical journals. Over a recent three day period, we had technicians shifting journals from the main library to a close by storage room (75 yards away). They averaged 4.9, 3.6, 4.4, and 4.8 shelves per hour. Most higher numbers were when two people worked together, and the smaller number was for one person working alone. Again, 6 shelves would equal the standard bookcase. They worked for two to two and a half hours each. I have done enough shifting myself, to feel that they actually worked a bit harder than what I would judge to be average. I expect working longer hours would lower these numbers, and expect they may dip as the project continues. Note that they are working in alphabetical order pulling journals per a list that I created. The list contains the title, present location, and holdings. I presently use dBase III Plus for our holdings data. To answer your other question, we have bound and unbound journals together and have never found it a problem. Separating them makes it much harder on the customers. We do use lots of princeton files. We have them in alphabetical sequence, and we have a separate reading room with the most recent issues as well. I hope some of this information has been of use. Perhaps I'll publish a more formal paper in the future, since I seem to have so much to say on the topic. Hope I haven't bored you or the other readers. Have fun, Bill Benson Internet: bensonwo@wl.wpafb.af.mil Serials Librarian Phone: (513) 255-6750 Wright Lab Tech Library Fax: (513) 476-4826 2690 C ST STE 4 Wright Patterson AFB OH 45433-7411 Visit our Library home page at http://www.wl.wpafb.af.mil/library/welcome.htm