Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 20:13:36 -0800 Reply-To: markb@cccd.edu From: Julie Bixby <markb@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU> Subject: Re: Duplicate Year End Issues > Well, its that time of year again! We are getting many duplicate > year end issues of journals. Then next year we will not get all > issues due us. Has ANYONE out there solved this problem? Where > is the problem, with the publisher?...the agent?....My process > at the University of Dayton, is to copy both labels and send > them to our agent (Ebsco) and then wait for the publisher to > adjust our expire. I would appreciate any help anyone can give!!!! Sonya, et al., All I can say is "Ditto"! The only way we've "solved" the problem is to call the publisher direct IMMEDIATELY that same day the issues arrive--by the time the claim's gone through the agency, the "duplicate" no longer exists in their computer. I've discovered that if you call right away, it's still in the system, the subscriptions can be merged, and you get "extended" 1 issue (if monthly) to the proper date. What's happening is that the fullfillment houses are a) meeting their monthly quota of "new" subscriptions, b) ignoring the agencies' instructions that this is a RENEWAL (and they should be looking for the current subscription, which should be extended, c) ignoring the JANUARY start date, even if they can't find the existing start date. Our library has the additional handicap of our name: Huntington Beach Public Library Of course, this--in its entirety--does not fit the mailing label. Thus, we get all sorts of variations on all 4 words by the people entering the data to make it fit 1 line. It would help *tremendously* if the publishers/ fullfillment houses had a STANDARDIZED abbreviation for both "public" and "library", like "pub" and "lib", which would allow the rest to fit, and make it easier to find in the database. -- Julie Bixby Internet: markb@cccd.edu Engage Romulan .sig cloaking device.... ---------- Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 15:23:00 -0800 From: David_Fisher@UCSDLIBRARY.UCSD.EDU Subject: Re[2]: Duplicate Year End Issues (Carla E. Pantaleon) I think everyone who sees this as a problem needs to be asking themselves what's the payoff vis a vis the cost involved in pursuing the matter. I've seen about 20 renewal periods go by during my career and I don't remember duplicates ever NOT being a problem. We maintain a backfile of duplicates for about a year arranged in alphbetical order and sell or trade them the following year. If we find ourselves receiving multiple copies of a title well beyond the normal transition period we then inform the vendor so steps can be taken to halt the tide. We are also prepared to return unmarked duplicates if asked for. The problem scenario seems to work something like this if I'm understanding the situation correctly: 1. Subscription ends but publisher's policy is to provide continuing service for several issues into the new year to guarantee no breaks in service. 2. Vendor renews but publisher fails to make the connection between renewal and last year's subscription, so continues to send several issues under old sub. into the new year to avoid any lapses in service between termination of the old subscription and start up of the renewal. In the meantime customer receives repeated renewal notices from publisher. Duplicates begin arriving at years end and continue into the new year for several issues past the renewal date. This has been going on for sooooo long that I'm convinced that publishers see this as less expensive for them than hiring the manpower to keep track of and correlate renewals to prior year's subscriptions - otherwise I'm sure they would have figured out long ago how to eliminate this horrendous duplication of materials. I imagine these costs are being passed on to the consumer but they may be trivial compared to the overall costs of subscriptions these days and the resources that would be consumed trying to stop it from happening. My remedy would be to get each publisher to provide a unique identifier for each subscription which would stay with that subscription regardless of which agency was handling the subscription. When a library changed vendors the subscription number would be one of the elements of information transferred to the new vendor. As renewals were placed for existing subscriptions the agency would forward the the subscription id to the publisher along with payment and renewals would always be correllated to existing subscriptions and the need for duplicate coverage for the transition period would be elimintated. I believe someone at Ebsco told me this is already being practiced by some publishers but I've seen little evidence of it yet. Taking this suggestion one step further, if subscribers could quote a unique subscription identifier with each claim the entire claims process would be simplified because we wouldn't have to provide proof of payment with each claim. It would be self evident from the subscription record pulled up by the identifier when the publisher went to fulfill the claim. Comments would be welcome from any publishers lurking on this listserv. Dave Fisher <dfisher@ucsd.edu> Head, Acquisitions SIO Library 0175C Scripps Institution of Oceanography University of California, San Diego 9500 Gilman Drive La Jolla, CA 92093-0175