3 messages, 121 lines: ------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 08:31:04 +0001 From: Esther Sleep <esleep@SPARTAN.AC.BROCKU.CA> Subject: Re: IPD or Gordon & Breach or harwood academic publishers or ... Yes, this is true that these programs have been discontinued. Way back in July one of our jobbers contacted me saying I would need to reapply for each title. After a lenghty investigation the replies from both jobber and publisher were that these had been discontinued. Most of our titles (G&B) are serviced by a jobber so I have not seen a "live" publisher invoice as yet. I wonder what they would do if we deducted 10%? I certainly wish "the right hand knew what the left hand doeth"!. I shall be listening for your replies. Esther L. Sleep Head, Serials Dept. Brock University Library St. Catharines, Ontario esleep@spartan.ac.brocku.ca ---- On Wed, 7 Dec 1994, Scott B. Wicks wrote: > I was preparing to pay our Gordon and Breach Publishing Group (I think that > is what they are called now) titles for 1995 and contacted their US office > at the (201) 643-7500 number to inquire about the Photocopy License Waiver > form as well as their Subscriber Incentive Plan. > > The response I received today was that neither of these programs continue > to exist. Hmm... > > Are there others of you who have asked to waive the photocopy charges and > been given similar answers? > > I can't in good faith pay these invoices in-hand as they include the > statement regarding the photocopy license which reads "the subscription > price ... includes a fee for a Photocopy License which permits multiple > photcopying [typo not mine] of single articles for the internal study or > research purposes of the subscriber." > > As I read the statement, Cornell does not want or need the photocopy license. > > If the cost for this unwanted service is truly 10% of the journal price, it > would be irresponsible to pay it. > > If there are any IPD _et al_ sales representatives out there listening, I'd > sure appreciate a call at (607) 255-4960. > > Thank you. > > --Scott Wicks > > ******************************* > Scott B. Wicks * > Acquisitions Librarian * > Cornell University Library * > 110A Olin Library * > Ithaca, NY * > 14853-5301 * --------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 08:50:05 -0500 From: Marcia Tuttle <tuttle@GIBBS.OIT.UNC.EDU> Subject: Re: IPD or Gordon & Breach or harwood academic ... In response to Scott and Esther, In late summer I received the photocopy license waiver forms from IPD that I had requested upon the advice of our vendor. They were complicated, and they were contradicted by the cover letter from the publisher. The terms of the agreement were not something my library could legally accept. Thus, I discarded the forms. Christie Degener and I reproduced both the text of the form and part of the cover letter, along with further contradictory statements found on actual journals in _Newsletter on Serials Pricing Issues_, no. 125 and 126, published in October. If anyone wants to see those issues, you can get them by gopher: sunsite.unc.edu, choose UNC Internet library, then Electronic journals. Or, by WWW: http://sunsite.unc.edu/reference/prices. html. My point here, I guess, is that as of about 3 months ago the publisher was still "selling" the photocopy waiver. At least to my library. If they have, in fact, discontinued it, that is, on the surface, a step in the right direction. However, for some subscribers it's a built-in 10% price increase. Has anybody taken this to the ALA/ALCTS Publisher/Vendor Library Relations Committee? Marcia Tuttle University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill tuttle@gibbs.oit.unc.edu ---------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 07:50:34 -0600 From: Janice Lindquist <jlindq@IS.RICE.EDU> Subject: G&B photocopy license I also called the New York office in regards to the photocopy license waiver and could not find anyone who knew what I was talking about. Finally they forwarded my phone call to the Swiss office and I was then told I needed to speak to someone in New York! A few days later I received a phone call from England and was told they would send me a copy of the waiver form. When nothing was received, I wrote a letter and of course, no one has responded to that. Our director has asked me to research G&B and the photocopy license fee and make a recommendation. As I have been unable to get ANY cooperation from these people, my recommendation is to cancel ALL G&B, Harwood subscriptions. Has anyone had any more success than Mr. Wicks and I have had. Why is information so difficult to verify from this publisher? *********************************************************************** * * * Janice L. Lindquist (713) 527-4023 phone * * Head of Acquisitions (713) 285-5258 fax * * Rice University Internet email: * * Fondren Library MS 44-A jlindq@is.rice.edu * * 6100 South Main Street * * Houston, Texas 77005-1892 * * * ***********************************************************************
