The most popular response seems to be to use OCLC. We are not on OCLC nor are any of the other libraries in our Association (OCLC is not very big here in Canada). We will however contact them to see what is involved. Thanks to everyone who took the time to answer. Carolyne Sidey Xerox Research Centre of Canada --------------------------------- >>We are producing a union list of serials of libraries which are not on the main Spanish union list (I am at a research center-Centro de Estudios Avanzados en Ciencias Sociales, Instituto Juan March, Madrid, Spain). I use Rapid file which is an Ashton Tate user friendly data base manager. It is very easy to learn how to use and I really like it. The computer people think it takes too much memory but it is so flexible and you can manipulate it so easily that we swear by it. To print, I download it into Word Perfect and do a bit of cleaning up. Maybe if I were more a computer person I could do everything in Rapid File. We also use it for acquisitions and serial control. the acquisitions has about 20,000 records. I don't know how large your data base is but if it is less or around that number I'd recommend Rapid File. I'm Martha Wood, my telephone number is 341- 435-42-40, ext. 264 the fax is 341-576-66-68 and my E-mail is martha.wood@ceacs.ijm.es. >>If you are in OCLC you could have them on your network create a list for you. If not, you might try Procite, but this would mean data entry and I think you want to avoid this. I know PALINET creates such lists. Call 1 - 800 - 233-3401. Carolyn Dearnaley Rider College >>I saw your enquirey on the listserv and thought you might wish to know how the Manitoba libraries are handling the same situation. We decided to encourage the libraries to report their holdings to NL and CISTI and thus they would appear in ROMULUS We thought long and hard about the best way to create a ULS and what would be involved in the updating and maintaining. By the time we had a prototype running and decided it was terrible, the other alternative presented itself. We still have some libraries who do not have their holding in with NL or CISTI and we will be working with NL to get those holding in so that the next edition of ROMULUS can be used as our ULS. We plan to put the system up on the university network and then everyone will have access to it. As well, most of the libraries have cd-rom equipment and can order a stand alone version. If you want more information, give me a call. My number is (204) 474-8749 Carolynne Presser Director of Libraries University of Manitoba >>The state of New Mexico recently did a union list of serials on CD-ROM through a contract with WLN. WLN accepted input in machine-readable or paper form from participating libraries, compiled it, did authority work on it, and produced the CD-ROM. The CD-ROM uses WLN's LaserCat software. If you want more information, Harold Bogart of the New Mexico State Library headed the project ((505)827-3800). Kathy Varjabedian Library, P362 Los Alamos National Laboratory Internet: varj@hyperion.lanl.gov Voice: 505-667-3063 Fax: 505-665-2948 >>OCLC has an enormous union listing function. No investment in software. Non-members can play. Your colleagues in Rochester NY may know more of it; I think they participate. If you're at all interested, I can find out an appropriate name for you on OCLC staff. (I worked for the SUNY/OCLC Network in New York State for 9 years, implementing union lists, and have also worked for OCLC, and can find the right name.) Ellen Rappaport Schaffer Law Library Albany Law School (518) 445-2342 RAPPAPE%SLSCVA@SNYCENVA <==bitnet >>Have you thought of doing the union list with OCLC? You don't all need to be members, you just need one agent to enter the records and keep them up. We did 15,000 local data records in 1/2 last year with one full time data entry clerk (who had some assistant from me). Most of the libraries filled out their own forms or downloaded their databases onto mock-ups of the form. Cathy Doyle Access Services Librarian Christopher Newport University doyle@powhatan.cc.cnc.edu >>I'm John Evans, and here at the University of Missouri - Columbia we created an in-house serials management database in 1986-1987 using the Advanced Revelation database management software on an 80286 PC-Clone. The database originally contained 12,000 records, and has grown in the last six years to near 16,000. Included in that number are some 3,000 'abbreviated' records for serials unique to the other 3 campuses in our four-campus system. I think any one of several "near-english" database management packages which include developer capabilities will allow you to construct a viable union list database, depending on how many records you have and how many/what sort of fields you are interested in including. The Advanced Revelation software we use (Revelation Technologies, Seattle, WA) is relational (allows files to interacted 'transparently') and extremely powerful, but has a STEEP learning curve which may not be worth the return, depending on how much you really need from the list. Pick up any recent computing magazine with reviews of dbms software to get an idea of other packages better suited to your needs. As far as qualities you simply MUST have, there are really only a few: Variable length fields (no matter what anyone says, you must have these), Whole field and individual character indexing (although with today's 80486 processors and up 64 MB of RAM on the Motherboard, indexed searches are becoming much less crucial), Easily manipulable screens (very nice, though I suppose not absolutely essential) and A VERSATILE REPORT GENERATOR (your data isn't much good to you if you can't get it out of the database in a form you can use). You are also going to need a high degree of portability, unless you want to re-key all the records you currently have with the outside producer. As for hardware, I would think you will want AT LEAST an 80486 - 33MHz SX with at least 8 MB of RAM, more if your database will exceed 5,000 records. And, you will need to make a decision about a printer, depending on whether you really need fast, pretty, or a combination of the two (we have taken to using two printers -- one for speed (the BIG reports), and the other to produce more "eye-friendly" short outputs. Math coprocessors are optional, depending on how your system crunches numbers. John Evans (ELSEVANS@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU) University of Missouri - Columbia Columbia, MO 65201 >>We are a fairly large public library. Our collection of circulating items is well over 200,000 and we circulate over a million items a year. The periodical collection includes newspapers and magazines and numbers approximately 500. We created our own inhouse database union list for this library and the 17 other affiliated smaller libraries using PC File Plus from Buttonware. program has been updated since. The undertaking was very timely but the results were satisfactory. Buttonware was helpful. I am not suggesting that this is the best program to use, only that it can be well done given time, time, time. Marguerite Buck Chester County Library and District Center Exton, PA 19341 215-363-0884 CCLIB@CCVM.WCUPA.EDU