Sadly, it's not just the publishers who need to be educated. We're experiencing a related problem here, to do with the coverage available from Innovative's CASE product. They accept information from publishers (such as ACM), and assume that we'll be happy to populate our catalogue with one link (and therefore only 1 record), no matter how many times the title has changed. The information for an EbscoHost product was just fine, as they obviously supplied the different titles & correct coverage. Seems to me that these things are being dreamt up by IT people, and nobody has actually talked to the serials cataloguers about how we want the information displaying correctly in our catalogues! Helen Cahill Cataloguer, Collection Services Massey University Library Private Bag 11054 Palmerston North 4442 NEW ZEALAND Ph: + 64 6 350 5799 ext 7876 Fax: + 64 6 350 5692 emai: H.Cahill@massey.ac.nz http://library.massey.ac.nz -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Regina Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2007 8:16 a.m. To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Electronic Serials - Title change Ed, If I understood Dana correctly, this situation is not limited to publishers printing ISSN of former titles. My understanding from complaints I have received and read about is that publishers are more or less ignoring the title changes their serials have had over the years and only displaying the most current title in conjunction with a list of previous volumes. Thus, someone tracking down a citation to an article from 1985, for example, under a former title, is not sure what is going on. Do they have the correct journal? Do they have the correct volume and number? I believe that only when the title displayed by the publisher matches the title on the citation (as well as the volume and issue cited) will some of this confusion be eliminated, ISSN issues aside. I am acutely aware of the limitation of publisher education. However, this situation is directly related to how publishers (and aggregators of various sorts) group and display titles that they are selling access to. It is unfortunate that some of the practices they use hinder rather than support access. I assume that they think they are simplifying access by grouping all volumes into one sequence, and to a certain extent they are. However, the titles under which articles were published are crucial for access and for matching citations. Regina Regina R. Reynolds email: rrey@loc.gov Head, National Serials Data Program voice: (202) 707-6379 Library of Congress fax (202) 707-6333 101 Independence Avenue, S.E. ISSN Web page: lcweb.loc.gov/issn/ Washington, D.C. 20540-4160 On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Ed Jones wrote: > One possible workaround would be something similar to OCLC's xISBN > service (which searches for a given book in a given catalog under all > the ISBNs under which it is known to have appeared. Something similar > for ISSNs--to be used in conjunction with open URL resolvers--might help > minimize the number of "false negatives". The main draw3back is that it > requires an organization to host the service and identify the related > ISSNs (though the latter could presumably be done by machine operating > off the ISSN database). > > My problem with the educate-the-publishers approach is that it requires > near-universal voluntary cooperation by publishers, both large and > small, which seems to me an overly ambitious and ever-receding goal. > > Ed Jones > National University (San Diego) > > -----Original Message----- > From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum > [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Rentz, Paivi H > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:34 PM > To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU > Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Electronic Serials - Title change > > I have always liked the way Elsevier lists and links to the former and > subsequent titles > > American Journal of Orthodontics > Copyright (c) 2007 The American Association of Orthodontists. All rights > reserved > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00029416 > <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00029416> > > Formerly known as American Journal of Orthodontics and Oral Surgery > <https://synergy.txstate.edu/science/journal/00966347> ; > Continued as American Journal of Orthodontics and Dentofacial > Orthopedics <https://synergy.txstate.edu/science/journal/08895406> > > Paivi Rentz > Electronic Resource Librarian > Texas State University - San Marcos > > ________________________________ > > From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum on behalf of > Regina Reynolds > Sent: Fri 8/24/2007 3:43 PM > To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU > Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Electronic Serials - Title change > > > > Dana, > Can you provide examples of publishers that you feel are following a style > that could be recommended to other publishers? > > An interesting model that might be considered is Project Transfer, a > project that "invites publishers to sign up to a Code of > Practice which aims to improve the procedures and policies surrounding > the transfer of journals between publishers. The Code has been drafted with > extensive help from many of the major international publishing houses and > has already been applauded as an excellent step forward by the > contributing library community." > > Development of a "Code of Practice" seems a more formal and stringent > approach than a set of "best practices" and might not be warranted in this > case. However, it is a demonstration of publishers and librarians working > together for improved access and understanding. > > The project's website is: > http://www.projecttransfer.org/ > > Regina > > > On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Dana Thomas wrote: > >> Yes please! A best practices or standard for this would be most welcome. >> I for one like the style that several publishers are following -- >> separating the content for former and current titiles, and providing >> links between them. >> >> >> Dana Thomas >> Digital Support Librarian >> Ryerson University >> >> Phone: 416.979.5000 Ext. #4982 >> Email: d1thomas@ryerson.ca >> >>>>> rrey@LOC.GOV 24/08/2007 7:14:46 am >>> >> Staff and myself at the National Serials Data Program (the U.S. ISSN >> center) are trying to educate publishers and those providers we work >> with about the problem of access to former titles. It's something of >> an >> uphill battle, I agree. Pointing out that separate ISSN have been >> assigned (or will be assigned) to the former titles, and citations to >> articles published under the former titles are under the former titles >> has helped some publishers understand the problem and list former titles >> and ISSN separately. Just this week we have been communicating about this >> problem to a major society publisher. >> >> I could envision an ALA committee developing a "best practices" document >> to disseminate to publishers and other providers. Perhaps there are >> other mechanisms that could be used to demonstrate in a unified and >> consistent manner how libraries would like former titles to be handled. >> >> Regina Reynolds >> Head, National Serials Data Program >> >> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Cynthia Koman wrote: >> >>> Please excuse cross-postings. >>> >>> *----------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am wondering if anyone else is has noticed that the electronic >> version of title changes are not listed separately on publisher's >> websites? I have noticed on several publisher's websites (Blackwell, >> Springer, etc.) that title changes show up under the most recent title >> of that serial, so that the previous title is buried and is not listed >> separately. Does anyone know why the titles are being clumped > together >> and not being listed separately? This is becoming an increasing issue >> because as we link to our e-journal collection from our e-journal > list. >> >>> >>> If you have noticed this - how are you handling it? >>> >>> Any information anyone can provide would be helpful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Cindy >>> >>> Cynthia L. Koman >>> Serials Librarian >>> Schaffer Library of Health Sciences >>> Albany Medical College >>> email: komanc@mail.amc.edu >>> phone: 518-262-6058 >>> >>> >> >> Regina R. Reynolds email: rrey@loc.gov >> Head, National Serials Data Program voice: (202) 707-6379 >> Library of Congress fax (202) 707-6333 >> 101 Independence Avenue, S.E. ISSN Web page: >> lcweb.loc.gov/issn/ >> Washington, D.C. 20540-4160 >> > > Regina R. Reynolds email: rrey@loc.gov > Head, National Serials Data Program voice: (202) 707-6379 > Library of Congress fax (202) 707-6333 > 101 Independence Avenue, S.E. ISSN Web page: > lcweb.loc.gov/issn/ > Washington, D.C. 20540-4160 > Regina R. Reynolds email: rrey@loc.gov Head, National Serials Data Program voice: (202) 707-6379 Library of Congress fax (202) 707-6333 101 Independence Avenue, S.E. ISSN Web page: lcweb.loc.gov/issn/ Washington, D.C. 20540-4160