Is there anyone here that has successfully used delimited text translator with Marcedit? I would like to use it to put a .txt file in marc format. I would appreciate any help as I have tried the manual and still cannot get the mapping to work as expected. Thanks people! Irma Harue Nicola Serials Coordinator Azusa Pacific University PO Box 7000 Azusa, California 91702 626-815-6000 extension 5258 John 1:4 inicola@apu.edu -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of SERIALST automatic digest system Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:59 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: SERIALST Digest - 7 Mar 2007 to 8 Mar 2007 - Special issue (#2007-52) There are 26 messages totalling 1761 lines in this issue. Topics in this special issue: 1. Sports Illustrated policy (18) 2. sports illustrated (2) 3. RE- Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue 4. Sports Illustrated (2) 5. Supplements (Was: RE: Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue) (2) 6. Censorship and the Swimsuit issue ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:35:17 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Randall" <kmr@NORTHWESTERN.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy The content of this particular issue of Sports Illustrated is *not* the problem being discussed. The problem is that an issue is not being distributed to subscribers. What that issue contains is immaterial. The subscribers paid for the issue, they are entitled to it, according to the implicit agreement in the subscription. And that *is* a matter of justice, ethics, and morals. Kevin M. Randall Head of Serials Cataloging Northwestern University Library 1970 Campus Drive Evanston, IL 60208-2300 email: kmr@northwestern.edu phone: (847) 491-2939 fax: (847) 491-4345 At 12:58 PM 3/7/2007, Ian Woodward wrote: >For a commercial corporation to elect to restrict its trade in such a >manner as to not make the world a little trashier is not a 'scary' >development. There is no provision in positive law that compels Time >Warner to publish an annual stroke book, nor could they be faulted under >a sensible principle of justice, ethics, or morals for electing not to >distribute one (unless they be in breach of contract). IW > >I. Woodward >Serials Office >Colgate University Libraries >Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology >13 Oak Drive >Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 >Ph.: 315-228-7306 >Fax: 315-228-7029 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:39:35 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Randall" <kmr@NORTHWESTERN.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy The swimsuit issue can have a legitimate research purpose in many libraries. (And no, I am not in the least trying to be funny or sarcastic.) The more this saga goes on, the more clear it does seem that it's a sales ploy by the publisher. Kevin M. Randall Head of Serials Cataloging Northwestern University Library 1970 Campus Drive Evanston, IL 60208-2300 email: kmr@northwestern.edu phone: (847) 491-2939 fax: (847) 491-4345 At 12:53 PM 3/7/2007, Ian Woodward wrote: > >>--I bet that corporate is afraid that if students can look at the >issue in >libraries, they won't buy their own copy. It's all about money. That's > >my cynical side, perhaps.<< > >Were that the case, the publisher would be loathe to honor any >institutional subscriptions. One might also suspect that the purposes >to which the Swimsuit issue is put would render a library subscription a >poor substitute for a personal copy. > >IW > >I. Woodward >Serials Office >Colgate University Libraries >Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology >13 Oak Drive >Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 >Ph.: 315-228-7306 >Fax: 315-228-7029 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:32:04 -0800 From: Kristin Ingman <kristiningman@YAHOO.COM> Subject: sports illustrated Hi all, after reading the posts this week I noticed that I, too, did not receive that sports illustrated. I couldn't believe it because we got it last year. I told my library director (we're a small institution) and she couldn't believe it either. If anybody feels so inclined, I would suggest actually writing to the NYtimes to see if they even respond. With the way censorship is going these days, this is a troubling development. It would be interesting to see if others outside the library world agree. Their email is: news-tips@nytimes.com . Sincerely, Kristin Ingman Library Assistant Johnson & Wales University --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:10:43 -0500 From: Eleanor Cook <cookei@APPSTATE.EDU> Subject: RE- Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue This is the message I just sent to my Ebsco account rep concerning the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue: There is a thread on SERIALST about the Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue - they are saying that Ebsco has reported to several libraries that Time, Inc is not supplying this issue to libraries anymore. A number of people have then commented saying "who are they to decide this" - demanding that they supply the issue since it is part of the subscription. It should be part of our subscription and it always has been in the past. It appears from our checkin records that it has not come in - if it is indeed v.106, no.7 - then it is not here. (Our checkin manager thought it had come, but if this is the issue number, it hasn't) I am in agreement with others that this is a disturbing, censorial trend. The swimsuit issue is definitely popular in the mail room and with the guys - but it also is a fashion standard which our Family & Consumer Science Dept. might use to track women's fashions over the years (seriously). We do want it - if they decide to market it separately in the future then they should call it a supplement and not number it with the yearly issues. I will try to contact someone at the publisher to register my complaint, but I realize that this is one of those "black hole" titles that comes from a big distribution factory. Sincerely, Eleanor Cook Eleanor I. Cook Serials Coordinator & Professor Belk Library, ASU Box 32026 Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608-2026 828-262-2786 828-262-2773 (fax) cookei@appstate.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:51:06 -0600 From: Mary Williams <mary.williams@MINOTSTATEU.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated =20 Beyonce? ________________________________ From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum on behalf of Kevin = M. Randall Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 4:09 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated But why should this year be any different from any other year? The swimsuit issue has been going on for a long time. Kevin M. Randall Head of Serials Cataloging Northwestern University Library 1970 Campus Drive Evanston, IL 60208-2300 email: kmr@northwestern.edu phone: (847) 491-2939 fax: (847) 491-4345 At 01:04 PM 3/7/2007, Palmiter, Sherry wrote: >Yes, that occurred to me too. > >A similar scenario has been has been known to happen with monographs >that unexpectedly became best sellers. Libraries had to wait to get >their discounted single copies while large shipments went to = bookstores. > >-----Original Message----- >From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum >[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Mary Williams >Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:38 AM >To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU >Subject: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated > >Has it occurred to anyone but me that there may have been a greater >demand than anticipated and that issues were diverted to newstands? Or >am I just a cynical curmudgeon? > >Mary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:55:46 -0500 From: Melissa Farley <mfarley@WESTGA.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy What, exactly, does the content of the magazine have to do with this matter? We are a *library*, and generally, libraries aren't into censorship. We paid for the issue; we're entitled to the issue. Period. William Walsh wrote: >I'd be surprised if many taxpayers in Georgia were appalled that their money didn't fund a library's receipt of pictures of Beyonce in a bikini. > >Time handled this poorly, but the situation hardly seems scandalous. > >Bill > > > > > -- ******************************** Melissa Farley Library Technical Assistant Irvine Sullivan Ingram Library University of West Georgia Carrollton, GA 30118 (678) 839-6498 mfarley@westga.edu ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:02:30 -0500 From: Ian Woodward <iwoodward@MAIL.COLGATE.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy Mr. Randall, a series of people indicated they were intimidated by Time Warner not distributing the issue in deference to public sensibilities. That may not be your issue, but it was theirs, and that was the issue I addressed. (And on more than one occasion, I made reference to the obligation of the publisher to honor implicit contracts, if that is of interest to you). IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin M. Randall Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:35 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy The content of this particular issue of Sports Illustrated is *not* the problem being discussed. The problem is that an issue is not being distributed to subscribers. What that issue contains is immaterial. The subscribers paid for the issue, they are entitled to it, according to the implicit agreement in the subscription. And that *is* a matter of justice, ethics, and morals. Kevin M. Randall Head of Serials Cataloging Northwestern University Library 1970 Campus Drive Evanston, IL 60208-2300 email: kmr@northwestern.edu phone: (847) 491-2939 fax: (847) 491-4345 At 12:58 PM 3/7/2007, Ian Woodward wrote: >For a commercial corporation to elect to restrict its trade in such a >manner as to not make the world a little trashier is not a 'scary' >development. There is no provision in positive law that compels Time >Warner to publish an annual stroke book, nor could they be faulted under >a sensible principle of justice, ethics, or morals for electing not to >distribute one (unless they be in breach of contract). IW > >I. Woodward >Serials Office >Colgate University Libraries >Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology >13 Oak Drive >Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 >Ph.: 315-228-7306 >Fax: 315-228-7029 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:04:34 -0500 From: Ian Woodward <iwoodward@MAIL.COLGATE.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy I can imagine amateurish research using the swimsuit issue, somewhere in the same region referred to in the spam that greets me every morning. IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin M. Randall Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:40 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy The swimsuit issue can have a legitimate research purpose in many libraries. (And no, I am not in the least trying to be funny or sarcastic.) The more this saga goes on, the more clear it does seem that it's a sales ploy by the publisher. Kevin M. Randall Head of Serials Cataloging Northwestern University Library 1970 Campus Drive Evanston, IL 60208-2300 email: kmr@northwestern.edu phone: (847) 491-2939 fax: (847) 491-4345 At 12:53 PM 3/7/2007, Ian Woodward wrote: > >>--I bet that corporate is afraid that if students can look at the >issue in >libraries, they won't buy their own copy. It's all about money. That's > >my cynical side, perhaps.<< > >Were that the case, the publisher would be loathe to honor any >institutional subscriptions. One might also suspect that the purposes >to which the Swimsuit issue is put would render a library subscription a >poor substitute for a personal copy. > >IW > >I. Woodward >Serials Office >Colgate University Libraries >Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology >13 Oak Drive >Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 >Ph.: 315-228-7306 >Fax: 315-228-7029 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:04:47 -0500 From: Regina Reynolds <rrey@LOC.GOV> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy LibraryJournal.com has an article about this policy including a customer service number libraries can call to request the issue. http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6422612.html Regina R. Reynolds email: rrey@loc.gov Head, National Serials Data Program voice: (202) 707-6379 Library of Congress fax (202) 707-6333 101 Independence Avenue, S.E. ISSN Web page: lcweb.loc.gov/issn/ Washington, D.C. 20540-4160 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:08:52 -0500 From: Ian Woodward <iwoodward@MAIL.COLGATE.EDU> Subject: Re: sports illustrated Madam, 'censorship' is an authoritative regulation implemented by the public authorities, not a voluntary abstention on the part of commercial corporations. Kindly explain what you mean by "with the way censorship is going these days"? What is being censored? The world is awash in internet porn and nude dancing at the Kitty Kat Lounge has been extended by our rogue judiciary a degree of First Amendment protection under half-baked conceptions of 'freedom of expression'. IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Ingman Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:32 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: [SERIALST] sports illustrated Hi all, after reading the posts this week I noticed that I, too, did not receive that sports illustrated. I couldn't believe it because we got it last year. I told my library director (we're a small institution) and she couldn't believe it either. If anybody feels so inclined, I would suggest actually writing to the NYtimes to see if they even respond. With the way censorship is going these days, this is a troubling development. It would be interesting to see if others outside the library world agree. Their email is: news-tips@nytimes.com . Sincerely, Kristin Ingman Library Assistant Johnson & Wales University --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:13:45 -0500 From: Ian Woodward <iwoodward@MAIL.COLGATE.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy Libraries do operate under budget constraints, and a decision to purchase x is a decision not to purchase y, so an implicit or explicit hierarchy of value is being applied. Libraries also have institutional missions (generally and optimally not defined by the staff of these libraries), which may or may not be advanced by public distribution of shots of Beyonce in a bikini. There is a commercial market for serving appetites of various sorts. No need for librarians to act as mediators. IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Melissa Farley Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:56 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy What, exactly, does the content of the magazine have to do with this matter? We are a *library*, and generally, libraries aren't into censorship. We paid for the issue; we're entitled to the issue. Period. William Walsh wrote: >I'd be surprised if many taxpayers in Georgia were appalled that their money didn't fund a library's receipt of pictures of Beyonce in a bikini. > >Time handled this poorly, but the situation hardly seems scandalous. > >Bill > > > > > -- ******************************** Melissa Farley Library Technical Assistant Irvine Sullivan Ingram Library University of West Georgia Carrollton, GA 30118 (678) 839-6498 mfarley@westga.edu ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:17:59 -0500 From: Max Shenk <MShenk@MC3.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated A flaw in this theory is that in most bookstores I frequent, there are STACKS of the swimsuit issue on display well into April. This issue isn't usually pulled from the racks at the end of the cover week. Not that I've ever, you know, gone LOOKING for one... ;-) Max Shenk Periodicals Assistant Montgomery County Community College Library Blue Bell, PA 215-641-6597 >>> Ian Woodward <iwoodward@MAIL.COLGATE.EDU> 3/7/2007 2:07 PM >>> Bingo. IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Mary Williams Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:38 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated Has it occurred to anyone but me that there may have been a greater demand than anticipated and that issues were diverted to newstands? Or am I just a cynical curmudgeon? Mary -- Mary Williams Serials Librarian Minot State University 500 University Ave. W Minot, ND 58707 (701) 858-4285 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:21:07 -0600 From: "Skwor, Jeanette" <skworj@UWGB.EDU> Subject: Supplements (Was: RE: Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue) I am confused. Do subscriptions not include supplements? I know there are some bundled subscriptions, which we choose as including this or that, or not, but I cannot think of anything to which we subscribe for which parts are published that are not available to us. Maybe it's just too early in the morning . . . Jeanette L. Skwor Cofrin Library, Serials Dept. UW-Green Bay 2420 Nicolet Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Eleanor Cook Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:11 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: [SERIALST] RE- Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue This is the message I just sent to my Ebsco account rep concerning the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue: There is a thread on SERIALST about the Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue - they are saying that Ebsco has reported to several libraries that Time, Inc is not supplying this issue to libraries anymore. A number of people have then commented saying "who are they to decide this" - demanding that they supply the issue since it is part of the subscription. It should be part of our subscription and it always has been in the past. It appears from our checkin records that it has not come in - if it is indeed v.106, no.7 - then it is not here. (Our checkin manager thought it had come, but if this is the issue number, it hasn't) I am in agreement with others that this is a disturbing, censorial trend. The swimsuit issue is definitely popular in the mail room and with the guys - but it also is a fashion standard which our Family & Consumer Science Dept. might use to track women's fashions over the years (seriously). We do want it - if they decide to market it separately in the future then they should call it a supplement and not number it with the yearly issues. I will try to contact someone at the publisher to register my complaint, but I realize that this is one of those "black hole" titles that comes from a big distribution factory. Sincerely, Eleanor Cook Eleanor I. Cook Serials Coordinator & Professor Belk Library, ASU Box 32026 Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608-2026 828-262-2786 828-262-2773 (fax) cookei@appstate.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:09:26 -0500 From: "Howlett, Lee Ann" <lhowlett@HEALTH.USF.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy 'Smut' is a judgement call that varies from person to person. Who decides where the lines should be drawn? I do happen to find this idea both appalling and frightening. The personal opinion of the librarian should not play into this. Neither should the personal/political agenda of those at Time Inc. when paid subscriptions should be honored. LAH __________________________________ Lee Ann Howlett, MA Head, Serials Dept. Shimberg Health Sciences Library University of South Florida 12901 Bruce B. Downs Blvd., MDC 31 Tampa, FL 33612 (813) 974-9080=20 (813) 974-7032 (fax) email: LHOWLETT@HEALTH.USF.EDU -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum on behalf of Ian = Woodward Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 2:05 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy =20 Time-Warner may have violated an explicit or implicit agreement with their customers. That is irritating and calls for pecuniary redress. It is not 'appalling' or 'frightening', unless it be your notion that it is a principle of justice of considerable importance that commercial entities which have made a habit of distributing small quantities of smut continue to do so or that commercial entities must never exercise their freedom of choice in making concessions to the sensibilities of people who complain. IW =20 I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Howlett, Lee Ann Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:05 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy Even though I don't work in a library that has a subscription to SI, I have to speak out. I find this action by the publisher appalling and frightening. This sounds too much like someone is responding to the 'tenor of the times'. =20 LAH _________________________________ Lee Ann Howlett, MA Head, Serials Dept. Shimberg Health Sciences Library University of South Florida 12901 Bruce B. Downs Blvd., MDC 31 Tampa, FL 33612 (813) 974-9080 (813) 974-7032 (fax) Email: LHOWLETT@HEALTH.USF.EDU -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Kellett Gue Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:47 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy So now publishers are putting themselves in the role of censors? That's a scary development. skg Susan Kellett Gue Sr. Library Specialist Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University 404-727-2588 404-727-0408 (Fax) Melissa Farley wrote: > My EBSCO representative called the publisher when I noticed we didn't > receive this issue, and sent me this message: > > Just called and was told, TIME INC's policy is NOT to send swimsuit > edition > to any libraries. So they will NOT be sending to you. Sorry, new policy > which went into effect this year. > > > I forwarded it to our Head of Acquisitions, and she asked EBSCO if we > would be receiving a credit for this issue. We haven't heard back yet > about that, but I suggest that all of us insist on a refund. > > The policy is completely ridiculous. Frankly, I don't think it has > anything to do with protecting students from scantily clad women--I=20 > bet that corporate is afraid that if students can look at the issue in > libraries, they won't buy their own copy. It's all about money. =20 > That's my cynical side, perhaps. > > -Melissa Farley > > Lynne Weaver wrote: > >> Hello, Folks - >> >> >> >> Shame on the people at Time, Inc., who apparently have decided to=20 >> censor our receipt of Sports Illustrated. We did not receive v.106=20 >> no.7, the Swimsuit Issue. (This is usually dated midway between the=20 >> second and third February issues, this year the 12th and 19th, so I'm >> guessing February 16th?) I've been checking a couple of other=20 >> colleges, who hadn't gotten it either, so I just figured it was=20 >> delayed. When it still hadn't arrived today, I called EBSCO to claim >> it. >> >> >> >> My customer service rep said they've gotten many calls claiming it,=20 >> and so contacted the publisher. The publisher's response was that=20 >> they did not send it to "institutions" because they didn't think it=20 >> was appropriate to do so. It seems to me that if one has a=20 >> subscription to a title, all issues for that subscription period=20 >> should be sent. It is up to the recipient to decide what to do with=20 >> the issue once it is received. By the way, I checked and found that=20 >> our public library did receive it! >> >> >> >> I asked our rep to claim it anyway. I'm hoping that all of you out=20 >> there will also do that. I also intend to send e-mail to SI customer >> service complaining and claiming the issue. Maybe if they get enough >> complaints, they'll send it. (I know; I'm an optimist.) >> >> >> >> If any of you have different/better information, please tell the rest >> of us. Thanks. >> >> >> >> Lynne N. Weaver >> >> Serials Coordinator >> >> Lipscomb Library >> >> Randolph-Macon Woman's College >> >> 2500 Rivermont Avenue >> >> Lynchburg, VA 24503 >> >> 434 947-8396 >> >> 434 947-8134 Fax >> >> lweaver@rmwc.edu >> >> >> >> =20 >> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:28:19 -0500 From: "Thomas, Susan Elaine" <suethoma@IUSB.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy I am not sure I understand what you mean by amateurish research. As previously noted it has huge research potential in terms of fashion, fashion design, and definitely pop culture. Other areas of research might be marketing, journalism, photography, art, gender and women's studies, history, psychology, etc. If Time Warner has elected to change their policy where was the notification? I am constantly bombarded with letters and emails explaining changes in terms of subscriptions and do not recall seeing anything either from EBSCO or from Time Warner indicating this change. It seems wrong, definitely very wrong for them to have made this decision. It also seems obvious that this was a decision made purely for profit. Unfortunately for Time Warner, it appears to be a new form of publisher censorship. I think when we subscribed or renewed our subscriptions to this publication it was under the assumption that we would receive all the issues published. Time Warner has noted that they did not send this particular issue to institutions/organizations that use a subscription management service and that this is a new policy for them, but have they provided a reason for the change? I think we need to push them to state explicitly why they did this. It should add fuel to the fire. Susan E. Thomas Head of Collection Development Schurz Library Indiana University South Bend (574) 520-5500 suethoma@iusb.edu -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian Woodward Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:05 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy I can imagine amateurish research using the swimsuit issue, somewhere in the same region referred to in the spam that greets me every morning. IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin M. Randall Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:40 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy The swimsuit issue can have a legitimate research purpose in many libraries. (And no, I am not in the least trying to be funny or sarcastic.) The more this saga goes on, the more clear it does seem that it's a sales ploy by the publisher. Kevin M. Randall Head of Serials Cataloging Northwestern University Library 1970 Campus Drive Evanston, IL 60208-2300 email: kmr@northwestern.edu phone: (847) 491-2939 fax: (847) 491-4345 At 12:53 PM 3/7/2007, Ian Woodward wrote: > >>--I bet that corporate is afraid that if students can look at the >issue in >libraries, they won't buy their own copy. It's all about money. That's > >my cynical side, perhaps.<< > >Were that the case, the publisher would be loathe to honor any >institutional subscriptions. One might also suspect that the purposes >to which the Swimsuit issue is put would render a library subscription a >poor substitute for a personal copy. > >IW > >I. Woodward >Serials Office >Colgate University Libraries >Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology >13 Oak Drive >Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 >Ph.: 315-228-7306 >Fax: 315-228-7029 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:27:39 -0500 From: "Howlett, Lee Ann" <lhowlett@HEALTH.USF.EDU> Subject: Re: Supplements (Was: RE: Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue) We subscribe to some medical periodicals that require separate subscriptions to their supplements. The supplements almost always have separate numbering schemes from the main title. LAH __________________________________ Lee Ann Howlett, MA Head, Serials Dept. Shimberg Health Sciences Library University of South Florida 12901 Bruce B. Downs Blvd., MDC 31 Tampa, FL 33612 (813) 974-9080=20 (813) 974-7032 (fax) email: LHOWLETT@HEALTH.USF.EDU -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum on behalf of = Skwor, Jeanette Sent: Thu 3/8/2007 9:21 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: [SERIALST] Supplements (Was: RE: Sports Illustrated SwimSuit = issue) =20 =20 I am confused. Do subscriptions not include supplements? I know there are some bundled subscriptions, which we choose as including this or that, or not, but I cannot think of anything to which we subscribe for which parts are published that are not available to us. Maybe it's just too early in the morning . . . Jeanette L. Skwor Cofrin Library, Serials Dept. UW-Green Bay 2420 Nicolet Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Eleanor Cook Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:11 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: [SERIALST] RE- Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue This is the message I just sent to my Ebsco account rep concerning the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue: There is a thread on SERIALST about the Sports Illustrated SwimSuit issue - they are saying that Ebsco has reported to several libraries that Time, Inc is not supplying this issue to libraries anymore. A number of people have then commented saying "who are they to decide this" - demanding that they supply the issue since it is part of the subscription. It should be part of our subscription and it always has been in the past. It appears from our checkin records that it has not come in - if it is indeed v.106, no.7 - then it is not here. (Our checkin manager thought it had come, but if this is the issue number, it hasn't) I am in agreement with others that this is a disturbing, censorial trend. The swimsuit issue is definitely popular in the mail room and with the guys - but it also is a fashion standard which our Family & Consumer Science Dept. might use to track women's fashions over the years (seriously). We do want it - if they decide to market it separately in the future then they should call it a supplement and not number it with the yearly issues. I will try to contact someone at the publisher to register my complaint, but I realize that this is one of those "black hole" titles that comes from a big distribution factory. Sincerely, Eleanor Cook Eleanor I. Cook Serials Coordinator & Professor Belk Library, ASU Box 32026 Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608-2026 828-262-2786 828-262-2773 (fax) cookei@appstate.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:32:16 -0500 From: Jane Binksma <jbinksma@GWEMAIL.RYERSON.CA> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy Has anyone checked their collection to see if there are previous swimsuit editions? Jane Binksma Acquisitions Librarian Collections Team Ryerson University Library 350 Victoria Street Toronto, ON M5B 2K3 416-979-5000 ex. 4855 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:42:07 -0500 From: Melissa Farley <mfarley@WESTGA.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy Thank you for posting this. Take note of this paraphrase from Rick McCabe at Sports Illustrated: "Those institutions that didn't receive an issue can request it either through a toll-free customer-service <http://www.SI.com/customerservice> number or the web site, he said; already some have done so through their serials vendor. " Has this been true for ANY of you? From what I was seeing yesterday, we've all been told that they either refuse to send the issue or that they're out of the issue. -Melissa Regina Reynolds wrote: >LibraryJournal.com has an article about this policy including a customer >service number libraries can call to request the issue. > >http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6422612.html > >Regina R. Reynolds email: rrey@loc.gov >Head, National Serials Data Program voice: (202) 707-6379 >Library of Congress fax (202) 707-6333 >101 Independence Avenue, S.E. ISSN Web page: lcweb.loc.gov/issn/ >Washington, D.C. 20540-4160 > > -- ******************************** Melissa Farley Library Technical Assistant Irvine Sullivan Ingram Library University of West Georgia Carrollton, GA 30118 (678) 839-6498 mfarley@westga.edu ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:42:06 -0500 From: Max Shenk <MShenk@MC3.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy In the immortal words of Tom Lehrer: All books can be indecent books Though recent books are bolder For filth, I'm glad to say, Is in the mind of the beholder When correctly viewed Everything is lewd I could tell you things about Peter Pan And the Wizard of Oz, there's a dirty old man! ("Smut" by Tom Lehrer) Max Shenk Periodicals Assistant Montgomery County Community College Library Blue Bell, PA 215-641-6597 >>> "Howlett, Lee Ann" <lhowlett@HEALTH.USF.EDU> 3/8/2007 9:09 AM >>> 'Smut' is a judgement call that varies from person to person. Who decides where the lines should be drawn? I do happen to find this idea both appalling and frightening. The personal opinion of the librarian should not play into this. Neither should the personal/political agenda of those at Time Inc. when paid subscriptions should be honored. LAH __________________________________ Lee Ann Howlett, MA Head, Serials Dept. Shimberg Health Sciences Library University of South Florida 12901 Bruce B. Downs Blvd., MDC 31 Tampa, FL 33612 (813) 974-9080 (813) 974-7032 (fax) email: LHOWLETT@HEALTH.USF.EDU -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum on behalf of Ian Woodward Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 2:05 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy Time-Warner may have violated an explicit or implicit agreement with their customers. That is irritating and calls for pecuniary redress. It is not 'appalling' or 'frightening', unless it be your notion that it is a principle of justice of considerable importance that commercial entities which have made a habit of distributing small quantities of smut continue to do so or that commercial entities must never exercise their freedom of choice in making concessions to the sensibilities of people who complain. IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Howlett, Lee Ann Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:05 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy Even though I don't work in a library that has a subscription to SI, I have to speak out. I find this action by the publisher appalling and frightening. This sounds too much like someone is responding to the 'tenor of the times'. LAH _________________________________ Lee Ann Howlett, MA Head, Serials Dept. Shimberg Health Sciences Library University of South Florida 12901 Bruce B. Downs Blvd., MDC 31 Tampa, FL 33612 (813) 974-9080 (813) 974-7032 (fax) Email: LHOWLETT@HEALTH.USF.EDU -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Kellett Gue Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:47 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy So now publishers are putting themselves in the role of censors? That's a scary development. skg Susan Kellett Gue Sr. Library Specialist Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University 404-727-2588 404-727-0408 (Fax) Melissa Farley wrote: > My EBSCO representative called the publisher when I noticed we didn't > receive this issue, and sent me this message: > > Just called and was told, TIME INC's policy is NOT to send swimsuit > edition > to any libraries. So they will NOT be sending to you. Sorry, new policy > which went into effect this year. > > > I forwarded it to our Head of Acquisitions, and she asked EBSCO if we > would be receiving a credit for this issue. We haven't heard back yet > about that, but I suggest that all of us insist on a refund. > > The policy is completely ridiculous. Frankly, I don't think it has > anything to do with protecting students from scantily clad women--I > bet that corporate is afraid that if students can look at the issue in > libraries, they won't buy their own copy. It's all about money. > That's my cynical side, perhaps. > > -Melissa Farley > > Lynne Weaver wrote: > >> Hello, Folks - >> >> >> >> Shame on the people at Time, Inc., who apparently have decided to >> censor our receipt of Sports Illustrated. We did not receive v.106 >> no.7, the Swimsuit Issue. (This is usually dated midway between the >> second and third February issues, this year the 12th and 19th, so I'm >> guessing February 16th?) I've been checking a couple of other >> colleges, who hadn't gotten it either, so I just figured it was >> delayed. When it still hadn't arrived today, I called EBSCO to claim >> it. >> >> >> >> My customer service rep said they've gotten many calls claiming it, >> and so contacted the publisher. The publisher's response was that >> they did not send it to "institutions" because they didn't think it >> was appropriate to do so. It seems to me that if one has a >> subscription to a title, all issues for that subscription period >> should be sent. It is up to the recipient to decide what to do with >> the issue once it is received. By the way, I checked and found that >> our public library did receive it! >> >> >> >> I asked our rep to claim it anyway. I'm hoping that all of you out >> there will also do that. I also intend to send e-mail to SI customer >> service complaining and claiming the issue. Maybe if they get enough >> complaints, they'll send it. (I know; I'm an optimist.) >> >> >> >> If any of you have different/better information, please tell the rest >> of us. Thanks. >> >> >> >> Lynne N. Weaver >> >> Serials Coordinator >> >> Lipscomb Library >> >> Randolph-Macon Woman's College >> >> 2500 Rivermont Avenue >> >> Lynchburg, VA 24503 >> >> 434 947-8396 >> >> 434 947-8134 Fax >> >> lweaver@rmwc.edu >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:45:02 -0500 From: Max Shenk <MShenk@MC3.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy Our library receives it every year. We keep it on reserve at the periodicals desk so that it's not damaged when we do our bindery order. This is the first year we haven't gotten it. In the five years I've been at this job, no one has ever asked for it on reserve, incidentally. Max Shenk Periodicals Assistant Montgomery County Community College Library Blue Bell, PA 215-641-6597 >>> Jane Binksma <jbinksma@GWEMAIL.RYERSON.CA> 3/8/2007 9:32 AM >>> Has anyone checked their collection to see if there are previous swimsuit editions? Jane Binksma Acquisitions Librarian Collections Team Ryerson University Library 350 Victoria Street Toronto, ON M5B 2K3 416-979-5000 ex. 4855 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:46:50 -0500 From: "Couillard, Monique" <Monique.Couillard@UNH.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy My Ebsco rep was told yesterday (Wed. 03/07/07) there are no copies left. Monique Couillard Serials Check In Supervisor Dimond Library - University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 03824 (603) 862-1972 moniquec@cisunix.unh.edu -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Melissa Farley Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:42 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy Thank you for posting this. Take note of this paraphrase from Rick McCabe at Sports Illustrated: "Those institutions that didn't receive an issue can request it either through a toll-free customer-service <http://www.SI.com/customerservice> number or the web site, he said; already some have done so through their serials vendor. " Has this been true for ANY of you? From what I was seeing yesterday, we've all been told that they either refuse to send the issue or that they're out of the issue. -Melissa Regina Reynolds wrote: >LibraryJournal.com has an article about this policy including a customer >service number libraries can call to request the issue. > >http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6422612.html > >Regina R. Reynolds email: rrey@loc.gov >Head, National Serials Data Program voice: (202) 707-6379 >Library of Congress fax (202) 707-6333 >101 Independence Avenue, S.E. ISSN Web page: lcweb.loc.gov/issn/ >Washington, D.C. 20540-4160 > > -- ******************************** Melissa Farley Library Technical Assistant Irvine Sullivan Ingram Library University of West Georgia Carrollton, GA 30118 (678) 839-6498 mfarley@westga.edu ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:49:41 -0600 From: "O'Brien, Pamela" <Pamela.OBrien@STJUDE.ORG> Subject: Censorship and the Swimsuit issue Dear Mr. Woodward, =20 If you truly believe censorship is "not a voluntary abstention on the part of commercial corporations" then=20 Big Brother would gladly welcome you to a land where everything is distributed through Walmart and we purchase and believe everything those corporate CEOs (making billions of $) spoonfeed us. =20 Sure, maybe there will be some "voluntary abstention" of contraceptive products or even Harry Potter books, but everything will be antiseptically rosy and wonderful in our corporately conjured world. =20 =20 Pamela O'Brien Biomedical Library St. Jude Children's Research Hospital 901-495-3389 =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:49:42 -0000 From: Dan Lester <dan@RIVEROFDATA.COM> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----=M_44d517c395eb92f37ee86fd8b7073c25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree completely with your comments on purported "amateurish research". Long ago and far away, in an ARL library, we received Playboy and archived it on COLOR microfilm. Why? Requests from Theater and from Fashion Design (in Home Ec at the time, no idea what they call it now). Both wanted to have historical/archival information on clothing, and Playboy was, at least then, one of the standards for current male fashion. The only flaw was when we realized that we'd have to keep the reels of microfilm secure when guys (presumably) realized that the frames of attractive women could be cut out, put in 2x2 slide mounts, and used for entertainment at frat parties and such. After replacing a few reels we realized what was happening. Yes, SI should have warned customers, or given them an "opt out" choice if they chose not to receive it. (Still seems to me that if "the college of sacred purity" didn't want to put it out for their students they could simply trash it as soon as it arrived) Has anyone found out yet from SI or from any of your student assistants whether on-campus subscribers received their copies? I wonder if the "trigger" for not sending it was the word "library" or a campus zip code, or something else. At this point, I'm not sure the "why" matters, other than what they've already said to LJ Online, as previously cited. But I will bet that they'll not do it again. dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas, Susan Elaine suethoma@IUSB.EDU To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Sent: 3/8/07 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy > I am not sure I understand what you mean by amateurish research. As > previously noted it has huge research potential in terms of fashion, > fashion design, and definitely pop culture. Other areas of research > might be marketing, journalism, photography, art, gender and women's > studies, history, psychology, etc. > > If Time Warner has elected to change their policy where was the > notification? I am constantly bombarded with letters and emails > explaining changes in terms of subscriptions and do not recall seeing > anything either from EBSCO or from Time Warner indicating this change. > > It seems wrong, definitely very wrong for them to have made this > decision. It also seems obvious that this was a decision made purely > for profit. Unfortunately for Time Warner, it appears to be a new form > of publisher censorship. > > I think when we subscribed or renewed our subscriptions to this > publication it was under the assumption that we would receive all the > issues published. Time Warner has noted that they did not send this > particular issue to institutions/organizations that use a subscription > management service and that this is a new policy for them, but have they > provided a reason for the change? I think we need to push them to state > explicitly why they did this. It should add fuel to the fire. > > Susan E. Thomas > Head of Collection Development > Schurz Library > Indiana University South Bend > (574) 520-5500 > suethoma@iusb.edu ----=M_44d517c395eb92f37ee86fd8b7073c25-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:51:30 -0000 From: Dan Lester <dan@RIVEROFDATA.COM> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----=M_22431389a8bf0c96d6b80b141ffad537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SI has done their annual swimsuit edition for many years, always in February as near as I recall. I don't know when it first started, but it was well over a decade ago. dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Binksma jbinksma@GWEMAIL.RYERSON.CA To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Sent: 3/8/07 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy > Has anyone checked their collection to see if there are previous > swimsuit editions? > > > > Jane Binksma > Acquisitions Librarian > Collections Team > Ryerson University Library > 350 Victoria Street > Toronto, ON > M5B 2K3 > 416-979-5000 ex. 4855 > > ----=M_22431389a8bf0c96d6b80b141ffad537-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:56:56 -0600 From: "Schueler, Rhonda N" <Rhonda.N.Schueler@NHMCCD.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy Out of curiosity, I emailed customer service late yesterday, rather than going through Ebsco, claiming this issue for six of our locations. The reply I received back this morning gave me the choice of the issue or an extension. I did reply back that the issue was wanted and that an extension or credit would not be accepted. I have not heard back as of yet. Rhonda Schueler Serials/ILL Specialist NHMCCD ALS 832-813-6587 fax 832-813-6614 rhonda.n.schueler@nhmccd.edu -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Melissa Farley Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:42 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy Thank you for posting this. Take note of this paraphrase from Rick McCabe at Sports Illustrated: "Those institutions that didn't receive an issue can request it either through a toll-free customer-service <http://www.SI.com/customerservice> number or the web site, he said; already some have done so through their serials vendor. " Has this been true for ANY of you? From what I was seeing yesterday, we've all been told that they either refuse to send the issue or that they're out of the issue. -Melissa Regina Reynolds wrote: >LibraryJournal.com has an article about this policy including a customer >service number libraries can call to request the issue. > >http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6422612.html > >Regina R. Reynolds email: rrey@loc.gov >Head, National Serials Data Program voice: (202) 707-6379 >Library of Congress fax (202) 707-6333 >101 Independence Avenue, S.E. ISSN Web page: lcweb.loc.gov/issn/ >Washington, D.C. 20540-4160 > > -- ******************************** Melissa Farley Library Technical Assistant Irvine Sullivan Ingram Library University of West Georgia Carrollton, GA 30118 (678) 839-6498 mfarley@westga.edu ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:57:01 -0500 From: William Walsh <libwdw@LANGATE.GSU.EDU> Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated policy You are entitled to the issue; I didn't imply otherwise. I did say that I doubted many taxpayers would be appalled over this. Melissa, Does your library buy everything published, or are you more selective than that? Bill >>> On 3/8/2007 at 7:55 AM, Melissa Farley <mfarley@WESTGA.EDU> wrote: > What, exactly, does the content of the magazine have to do with this > matter? We are a *library*, and generally, libraries aren't into > censorship. > > We paid for the issue; we're entitled to the issue. > > Period. > > William Walsh wrote: > >>I'd be surprised if many taxpayers in Georgia were appalled that their money > didn't fund a library's receipt of pictures of Beyonce in a bikini. >> >>Time handled this poorly, but the situation hardly seems scandalous. >> >>Bill >>> On 3/7/2007 at 12:12 PM, Melissa Farley <mfarley@WESTGA.EDU> wrote: > It doesn't really matter whether it's a public library or not. > Individual libraries, whether public or private, can make the decision > for themselves whether to display the issue, as can doctor's offices and > other public institutions. It is never appropriate for the publisher to > make that decision for all of any group. It is more appropriate for > them to have an opt-in list for such action. > > As I implied before, it is even more scandal-worthy and appalling when > taxpayer's money is involved. > > -Melissa Farley ------------------------------ End of SERIALST Digest - 7 Mar 2007 to 8 Mar 2007 - Special issue (#2007-52) ************************************************************************ ****