That song has been gleefully dancing through my head since this discussion started. I am so glad that I am not the only one who went there. Mary ******************************************** Mary M. Spila Pennsylvania Documents Cataloger State Library of Pennsylvania 333 Market St. Harrisburg, PA 17126-1745 717-783-3884 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU]On Behalf Of Max Shenk Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:42 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy In the immortal words of Tom Lehrer: All books can be indecent books Though recent books are bolder For filth, I'm glad to say, Is in the mind of the beholder When correctly viewed Everything is lewd I could tell you things about Peter Pan And the Wizard of Oz, there's a dirty old man! ("Smut" by Tom Lehrer) Max Shenk Periodicals Assistant Montgomery County Community College Library Blue Bell, PA 215-641-6597 >>> "Howlett, Lee Ann" <lhowlett@HEALTH.USF.EDU> 3/8/2007 9:09 AM >>> 'Smut' is a judgement call that varies from person to person. Who decides where the lines should be drawn? I do happen to find this idea both appalling and frightening. The personal opinion of the librarian should not play into this. Neither should the personal/political agenda of those at Time Inc. when paid subscriptions should be honored. LAH __________________________________ Lee Ann Howlett, MA Head, Serials Dept. Shimberg Health Sciences Library University of South Florida 12901 Bruce B. Downs Blvd., MDC 31 Tampa, FL 33612 (813) 974-9080 (813) 974-7032 (fax) email: LHOWLETT@HEALTH.USF.EDU -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum on behalf of Ian Woodward Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 2:05 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy Time-Warner may have violated an explicit or implicit agreement with their customers. That is irritating and calls for pecuniary redress. It is not 'appalling' or 'frightening', unless it be your notion that it is a principle of justice of considerable importance that commercial entities which have made a habit of distributing small quantities of smut continue to do so or that commercial entities must never exercise their freedom of choice in making concessions to the sensibilities of people who complain. IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries Case Library and Geyer Center for Information Technology 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Howlett, Lee Ann Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:05 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy Even though I don't work in a library that has a subscription to SI, I have to speak out. I find this action by the publisher appalling and frightening. This sounds too much like someone is responding to the 'tenor of the times'. LAH _________________________________ Lee Ann Howlett, MA Head, Serials Dept. Shimberg Health Sciences Library University of South Florida 12901 Bruce B. Downs Blvd., MDC 31 Tampa, FL 33612 (813) 974-9080 (813) 974-7032 (fax) Email: LHOWLETT@HEALTH.USF.EDU -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Kellett Gue Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:47 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Sports Illustrated policy So now publishers are putting themselves in the role of censors? That's a scary development. skg Susan Kellett Gue Sr. Library Specialist Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University 404-727-2588 404-727-0408 (Fax) Melissa Farley wrote: > My EBSCO representative called the publisher when I noticed we didn't > receive this issue, and sent me this message: > > Just called and was told, TIME INC's policy is NOT to send swimsuit > edition > to any libraries. So they will NOT be sending to you. Sorry, new policy > which went into effect this year. > > > I forwarded it to our Head of Acquisitions, and she asked EBSCO if we > would be receiving a credit for this issue. We haven't heard back yet > about that, but I suggest that all of us insist on a refund. > > The policy is completely ridiculous. Frankly, I don't think it has > anything to do with protecting students from scantily clad women--I > bet that corporate is afraid that if students can look at the issue in > libraries, they won't buy their own copy. It's all about money. > That's my cynical side, perhaps. > > -Melissa Farley > > Lynne Weaver wrote: > >> Hello, Folks - >> >> >> >> Shame on the people at Time, Inc., who apparently have decided to >> censor our receipt of Sports Illustrated. We did not receive v.106 >> no.7, the Swimsuit Issue. (This is usually dated midway between the >> second and third February issues, this year the 12th and 19th, so I'm >> guessing February 16th?) I've been checking a couple of other >> colleges, who hadn't gotten it either, so I just figured it was >> delayed. When it still hadn't arrived today, I called EBSCO to claim >> it. >> >> >> >> My customer service rep said they've gotten many calls claiming it, >> and so contacted the publisher. The publisher's response was that >> they did not send it to "institutions" because they didn't think it >> was appropriate to do so. It seems to me that if one has a >> subscription to a title, all issues for that subscription period >> should be sent. It is up to the recipient to decide what to do with >> the issue once it is received. By the way, I checked and found that >> our public library did receive it! >> >> >> >> I asked our rep to claim it anyway. I'm hoping that all of you out >> there will also do that. I also intend to send e-mail to SI customer >> service complaining and claiming the issue. Maybe if they get enough >> complaints, they'll send it. (I know; I'm an optimist.) >> >> >> >> If any of you have different/better information, please tell the rest >> of us. Thanks. >> >> >> >> Lynne N. Weaver >> >> Serials Coordinator >> >> Lipscomb Library >> >> Randolph-Macon Woman's College >> >> 2500 Rivermont Avenue >> >> Lynchburg, VA 24503 >> >> 434 947-8396 >> >> 434 947-8134 Fax >> >> lweaver@rmwc.edu >> >> >> >> >> >