> Hello Myrna,
>
>> Date:    Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:45:22 +1000
>> From:    Myrna Hermann <m.hermann@CQU.EDU.AU>
>> Subject: Help need for an 853 tag entry
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> We have a journal giving the following information -
>>
>> Issue Volume Number Number Year
>>
>> This issue information changes with each issue, the volume number
>> changes with the year, and both numbers change.
>>
>> I have created this 853 tag
>>
>> \a Issue \v c \b Vol. \u 1 \v r \c no. \u 4 \v c \d no. \u 4 \v c \i
>> (year) \w q
>

Previous to 2006, we had ignored the extra number information.
Vol. 46 No. 12 No. 342 Dec 2005
Vol. \b no. \u 12 \v r \i (year) \j (month) \w m

The 2006 issues we have in hand are as follows -
Issue 1 Vol. 47 No. 125 No. 343 2006   /[ Month??]/
Issue 2 Vol. 47 No. 126 No. 344 2006
Issue 4 Vol. 47 No. 128 No. 345 2006  /[_should be no. 346, right??_]/

I am not sure you could have these extra numbers both predicted, because
you seem to have three separate numbering systems on this title (MARC is
set up to predict two).  It might be fudged, depending on system support
for it, by putting one in \c and one in \d.  I would do it this way (but
believe it or not I do NOT check in, so anyone else is welcome to
correct this.)  The numbers are at the same level as the "issues"
(there's a new "number" for every new "issue"), so ordinarily they would
not be in 853 \c; however, with the value of \u set to 1, it might work:
       \aVol. \bIssue  \u12 \vr \c no. \u 1 \v c \d no. \u 1 \v c \i
(year) \j (month) \w m    [But:  It doesn't look like your numbers are
even regular!!!]

I think if we put one of those numbering systems in \g, the system would
increment it when \a increments, not when \b increments.  But I'm happy
to submit that for either testing or immediate correction by people who
have experience.

Hope it helps.
Frieda

>>
>> Everything except the issue changes successfully.
>> Would you be able to give me some pointers as to where I'm going wrong?
>>
>> Kind thanks,
>> Myrna
>>
>>
>> Myrna Hermann
>> Serials Officer
>> Serials Section
>> CQU Library, Building 10 Rockhampton, 4702, Qld
>> Empowering teaching learning & research
>> Phone 07 4930 9465 Fax 07 4930 6381
>> Email m.hermann@cqu.edu.au
>> Email library-serials@cqu.edu.au
>
>
> Hi Myrna,
>
> Can you please tell us the title of this piece?  I often find that
> when I ask colleagues for help with a pattern, having the title of the
> piece is quite useful; there can be other libraries that own the title
> that have patterns in place for it, or have workarounds to deal with
> the pattern.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patty Hatch
>
>
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