Good points toward not classifying. I remember my student days when I would do my research to get my citations and then spend a bunch of time getting the call numbers for the journals since my library classified things. It would have been easier if I could simply find them by title. Integration also spreads things out (all of our separate periodicals are on one floor but if we integrated them into the classified monographs they would be on three floors). That means more time wandering around for users and serials staff. We all have our opinions on this. I was just wondering if anyone has surveyed users on the organization of a library's physical periodicals to get a sense of whether they prefer them to be classified or shelved by title. It seems to me that libraries don't do enough to understand what users want and prefer. Too often we think we know what's best for them. If you're going to spend the time and effort on a project like that you should be sure it is something the users want to see changed. Buddy Pennington Serial Acquisitions Librarian University of Missouri - Kansas City University Libraries www.umkc.edu/lib -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian Woodward Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:37 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Your comments appreciated, or to class or not to class periodical collection I suspect that the bulk your customers are referred to articles via databases and other reference sources, and do not discover them by browsing. In my years as a student, I was occasionally told to browse particular titles, never particular classifications. Also, over the run of their publication, serials often wander far from their original classification. We have in our collection a magazine called "Environment" that covers matters of interest primarily to our geography students. In the CONSER-level cataloguing, it is classified in Military Science, because in its initial years it was concerned with the impacts of nuclear energy in its various uses. The University of Rochester once (and I imagine still) organized their current (unbound and browsable) collection by title and them filed the remainder of their collection (all bound) by call number in the general stacks. If the array of space you have available no longer permits of a separate periodicals department containing the sum of your periodical holdings, their's is a solution. No one has ever explained to me how collocation is all that utile in the realm of periodicals, it will require a goodly number of man-hours to shuffle things around toward that end, and the labels you put on these items are likely to look shabby. IW I. Woodward Serials Office Colgate University Libraries 201L McGregory Hall 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, N.Y. 13346 Ph.: 315-228-7306 Fax: 315-228-7029 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Pennington, Buddy D. Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:01 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Your comments appreciated, or to class or not to class periodical collection Has anyone out there bothered to ask users what their preference would be? It might be useful to poll faculty and students as to whether they prefer the current system or a different way of shelving the journals. Buddy Pennington Serial Acquisitions Librarian University of Missouri - Kansas City University Libraries www.umkc.edu/lib -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Mitch Turitz Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:57 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Your comments appreciated, or to class or not to class periodical collection Robin: Our library is a medium sized academic library. From the first day I started here, 19 years ago, I made arguments for using call numbers for the periodicals, which are still shelved by title and in a separate department for periodicals. All to no avail, I was given arguments like, "who is going to label, and move all the periodicals? We don't have the staff to take on that big a project!" (A good argument in my opinion), and, "the patrons like it this way, it's how they search for the titles." However there was no study done to confirm that. It was more the preference of the person in charge of the dept. rather than doing any kind of survey. The dept. head also insisted on a regular printout of all the journals located in the dept. by alphabetical order, even though they were all included into the OPAC. We discontinued that list, which required a lot of work to fit her specifications, after she retired. So we continue to shelve by title, but we leave the 050/090 blank, and add a 246 with a 2nd indicator of "9". Our vendor converted the display of any 246 09 to display in the OPAC as: "SHELVED AS: _____" this allows us to indicate that the binder may have continued to print the old or other title on the new successive entry title, so we may still find the title. This helps with titles which fluctuate like "Atlantic" and "Atlantic Monthly" - only one place to look for the title. There are better examples than this, but it is the first one that jumped to mind. We also use a location code of "Periodicals Dept." instead of "Main" (which is where the monographs are shelved.) Shelved by title does not allow for browsing by subject in the stacks, the way the monographs are arranged. Another argument for classifying together. I still would like to see our collection shelved by LC call number and integrated into the collection so that all like materials are shelved together, but I have been outvoted by people in higher positions. -- Mitch Turitz, Serials Librarian >>> rglaser@TROY.EDU 6/20/2006 2:20 PM >>> Hello! I work at a small academic library, and I'm adding periodicals to our library's catalog. Because we have only unbound issues kept in alphabetical order, I assigned the word "PERIODICAL" to the 090 field instead of an LC class number. However, some of the staff question that; they think an LC class number should be used. Our director told us to get documentation on why we should continue to use "Periodical" or use LC class. It would be helpful to know what other libraries do and why. I would greatly appreciate hearing from you! Robbin Glaser Technical Services Librarian Troy University, Dothan rglaser@troy.edu -- _^_ _^_ (___)-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ( ___ ) | | | | | | Mitch Turitz, Serials Librarian | | | | San Francisco State University Library | | | | Past President, | | | | SFSU California Faculty Association | | | | voice: (415) 338-7883 | | | | CFA: (415) 338-6232 | | | | FAX: (415) 405-0394 | | | | | | (___)-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-==- ( ___ ) V V http://www.cfasf.org (SFSU web site) cfasf@igc.org) or Mitch Turitz (x. 87883; turitz@sfsu.edu) & http://www.calfac.org/ (CFA State-wide web site)