Actually, in reference to Kim Maxwell's statement, one could argue that Elsevier *is* making it difficult for libraries from supporting research by charging exorbitant prices and requiring no-cancel contracts for ScienceDirect (which we do not have). If indeed they do impose associated restrictions as we've been discussing, then they prevent faculty from having access as well. Undergraduate liberal arts colleges don't have the deep pockets to support numerous expensive journals used for faculty research. We've had to cut subscriptions in the last few years due to budget problems. Our primary obligation is to provide materials for student research and assignments. As it is now, we pay hefty fees to have Nature and Science online, but at least they are heavily used by students and faculty. -Jennifer Jennifer van Sickle Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator Trinity College Library 300 Summit St. Hartford, CT USA 06106 phone: 860-297-2250 fax: 860-297-2251 jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Kim Maxwell Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:49 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions I think what they're saying (and someone from Elsevier can correct me if I'm wrong) is that they title is *only* available at the "discounted" personal rate if the person in question is affiliated with an institution that subscribes to the journal. In other words, my grandmother (who is in no way connected to the field of chemistry) couldn't start up her own personal subscription to Tetrahedron Letters; if she wanted one, she'd need to pay the institutional rate. She could only pay the personal rate if she were affiliated with an institution that paid for a copy at the institutional rate. The mailing address has no bearing on the price; only the institutional affiliation and associated institutional subscription does. As to your question "how can they prevent an individual research from obtaining needed information," they aren't preventing it. They are a commercial entity with a price structure that may make it difficult for some individuals, but it isn't illegal to my knowledge. It isn't Elsevier's fault that a researcher at a given institution can't get the support she needs, in terms of this subscription, for her research from the institution itself. Kim _________________________________________________ Kim Maxwell Serials Acquisitions Librarian Associate Head, Acquisitions & Licensing Services Massachusetts Institute of Technology MIT Libraries, Room 14E-210 77 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 phone: 1-617-253-7028 fax: 1-617-253-2464 email: kmaxwell@mit.edu At 02:39 PM 4/19/2005 -0400, Koveleskie, Judith wrote: >What if the faculty member had it sent to a different address? How >would Elsevier know? > >I understand that they don't want faculty copies, paid for at a lower >rate, to drift into the library collection, but how can they prevent and >individual researcher from obtaining needed information? > > >Judith A. Koveleskie >Periodicals Librarian >Seton Hill University >Reeves Memorial Library >Greensburg, PA 15601 >724-838-7828 >This document may contain confidential information and is intended >solely for the use of the addressee. If you received it in error, please >contact the sender at once and destroy the document. The document may >contain information subject to restrictions of the Family Educational >Rights and Privacy and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Acts. Such information may >not be disclosed or used in any fashion outside the scope of the service >for which you are receiving the information. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum >[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of van Sickle, Jennifer >Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:56 PM >To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU >Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions > >Julie, > >Yes, Elsevier will not allow individual faculty to subscribe to >particular journals unless the college/university library has a >subscription as well. I confirmed this with their customer service >department. > >-Jennifer > >Jennifer van Sickle >Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator >Trinity College Library >300 Summit St. >Hartford, CT USA 06106 > >phone: 860-297-2250 >fax: 860-297-2251 >jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu > >-----Original Message----- >From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum >[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Blake, Julie C. >Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:29 PM >To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU >Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions > >Jennifer, > > Well, I haven't heard of this at all, because I'm not even sure >what you're saying. By "restricting" do you mean that Elsevier will not >allow individual faculty to subscribe if the organizational library >doesn't? That seems like a real way to lose even more customers! Except >for research institutions, most of us can't afford to support individual >faculty research, so I can think of lots of instances in which an >individual would want a subscription that the library doesn't have. Or >are they simply refusing to allow the issues to be donated to a library? >That I can more easily understand. > >Julie > >Julie C. Blake >Collection Management Coordinator and Asst. Professor LR&TS, St. Cloud >State University >320-308-4756 >jcblake@stcloudstate.edu > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum > > [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of van Sickle, Jennifer > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:18 AM > > To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU > > Subject: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions > > > > Dear Serialst-ers, > > > > > > > > Perhaps I missed this, but I was unaware of Elsevier's policy of > > restricting individual subscriptions unless the corresponding library > > subscribes too. This applies to some of their journals, but the > > customer service rep did not know the criteria for choosing which > > journals this applies to. > > Does anyone know if this is a new policy, or is something that was > > under my radar? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -Jennifer > > > > > > > > Jennifer van Sickle > > > > Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator > > > > Trinity College Library > > > > 300 Summit St. > > > > Hartford, CT USA 06106 > > > > > > > > phone: 860-297-2250 > > > > fax: 860-297-2251 > > > > jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu > > > > > >
