Re: Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions Pennington, Buddy D. 19 Apr 2005 20:29 UTC

Do any other publishers do this?  Not all institutions can afford the
$11,595 subscription for Tetrahedon Letters and the difference between
that and an associated subscription ($476) is rather large.

It's not illegal to do, but it does seem quite prohibitive in terms of
access for individuals whose institutions don't subscribe.  I know that
Elsevier is a commercial publisher, but this practice seems a step in
the wrong direction.

And it is completely Elsevier's fault that a faculty member has to pay
almost twelve thousand dollars because his institution does not
subscribe to the title.  They are the ones choosing this model instead
of the more typical one of independent institutional and personal
subscriptions.  Of course, if they did make it independent, that would
probably mean that the $476 would be quite a bit more...

Buddy Pennington
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-----Original Message-----
From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Kim Maxwell
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:49 PM
To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions

I think what they're saying (and someone from Elsevier can correct me if
I'm wrong) is that they title is *only* available at the "discounted"
personal rate if the person in question is affiliated with an
institution that subscribes to the journal.  In other words, my
grandmother (who is in no way connected to the field of chemistry)
couldn't start up her own personal subscription to Tetrahedron Letters;
if she wanted one, she'd need to pay the institutional rate.  She could
only pay the personal rate if she were affiliated with an institution
that paid for a copy at the institutional rate.  The mailing address has
no bearing on the price; only the institutional affiliation and
associated institutional subscription does.

As to your question "how can they prevent an individual research from
obtaining needed information," they aren't preventing it.  They are a
commercial entity with a price structure that may make it difficult for
some individuals, but it isn't illegal to my knowledge.  It isn't
Elsevier's fault that a researcher at a given institution can't get the
support she needs, in terms of this subscription, for her research from
the institution itself.

Kim

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At 02:39 PM 4/19/2005 -0400, Koveleskie, Judith wrote:
>What if the faculty member had it sent to a different address?  How
>would Elsevier know?
>
>I understand that they don't want faculty copies, paid for at a lower
>rate, to drift into the library collection, but how can they prevent
>and individual researcher from obtaining needed information?
>
>
>Judith A. Koveleskie
>Periodicals Librarian
>Seton Hill University
>Reeves Memorial Library
>Greensburg, PA 15601
>724-838-7828
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
>[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of van Sickle, Jennifer
>Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:56 PM
>To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
>Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions
>
>Julie,
>
>Yes, Elsevier will not allow individual faculty to subscribe to
>particular journals unless the college/university library has a
>subscription as well.  I confirmed this with their customer service
>department.
>
>-Jennifer
>
>Jennifer van Sickle
>Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator
>Trinity College Library
>300 Summit St.
>Hartford, CT USA 06106
>
>phone: 860-297-2250
>fax: 860-297-2251
>jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
>[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Blake, Julie C.
>Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:29 PM
>To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
>Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions
>
>Jennifer,
>
>         Well, I haven't heard of this at all, because I'm not even
>sure what you're saying. By "restricting" do you mean that Elsevier
>will not allow individual faculty to subscribe if the organizational
>library doesn't? That seems like a real way to lose even more
>customers! Except for research institutions, most of us can't afford to

>support individual faculty research, so I can think of lots of
>instances in which an individual would want a subscription that the
>library doesn't have. Or are they simply refusing to allow the issues
to be donated to a library?
>That I can more easily understand.
>
>Julie
>
>Julie C. Blake
>Collection Management Coordinator and Asst. Professor LR&TS, St. Cloud
>State University
>320-308-4756
>jcblake@stcloudstate.edu
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
> > [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of van Sickle, Jennifer
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:18 AM
> > To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
> > Subject: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions
> >
> > Dear Serialst-ers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps I missed this, but I was unaware of Elsevier's policy of
> > restricting individual subscriptions unless the corresponding
> > library subscribes too.  This applies to some of their journals, but

> > the customer service rep did not know the criteria for choosing
> > which journals this applies to.
> > Does anyone know if this is a new policy, or is something that was
> > under my radar?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jennifer
> >
> >
> >
> > Jennifer van Sickle
> >
> > Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator
> >
> > Trinity College Library
> >
> > 300 Summit St.
> >
> > Hartford, CT USA 06106
> >
> >
> >
> > phone: 860-297-2250
> >
> > fax: 860-297-2251
> >
> > jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu
> >
> >
> >