-----Original Message-----
From: Burke, Jane
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:01 PM
To: 'SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum'
Subject: RE: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions

You have hit on a bone of contention for my company.  We have moved away
from a traditional print library to a Digital Library.  When we first
began our reduction to the print four years ago, I received a phone call
from a scientist here who said that Elsevier wanted to charge him the
institutional rate to subscribe to a Tetrahedron package title (and you can
imagine how much that would be at an institutional rate!)  It was, as you
say, because the library here had canceled it in print.  (But we did have
other libraries in our system that retained it in print.  That didn't seem
to matter.) Despite discussions with Elsevier we have never been able to get
them to agree to discontinue this practice or take into account the $$ we
have spent on the online.  So, this have been going on at least for a few
years with no resolution.

~~~~~~
Jane D. Burke
Senior Advisor
Groton Laboratories
Pfizer Inc
PGRD Library
MS 8118-05
Eastern Point Road
Groton  CT  06340

 (860) 441-0683  (voice)
 (860) 441-8519  (fax)
Jane.Burke@pfizer.com

 "And now here is my secret, a very simple secret:
 It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential
is
invisible to the eye."

Antoine de Saint-Exupery
The Little Prince

-----Original Message-----
From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU]On Behalf Of Blake, Julie C.
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:29 PM
To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions

Jennifer,

        Well, I haven't heard of this at all, because I'm not even sure
what you're saying. By "restricting" do you mean that Elsevier will not
allow individual faculty to subscribe if the organizational library
doesn't? That seems like a real way to lose even more customers! Except
for research institutions, most of us can't afford to support individual
faculty research, so I can think of lots of instances in which an
individual would want a subscription that the library doesn't have. Or
are they simply refusing to allow the issues to be donated to a library?
That I can more easily understand.

Julie

Julie C. Blake
Collection Management Coordinator and Asst. Professor
LR&TS, St. Cloud State University
320-308-4756
jcblake@stcloudstate.edu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
> [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of van Sickle, Jennifer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:18 AM
> To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
> Subject: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions
>
> Dear Serialst-ers,
>
>
>
> Perhaps I missed this, but I was unaware of Elsevier's policy
> of restricting individual subscriptions unless the
> corresponding library subscribes too.  This applies to some
> of their journals, but the customer service rep did not know
> the criteria for choosing which journals this applies to.
> Does anyone know if this is a new policy, or is something
> that was under my radar?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -Jennifer
>
>
>
> Jennifer van Sickle
>
> Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator
>
> Trinity College Library
>
> 300 Summit St.
>
> Hartford, CT USA 06106
>
>
>
> phone: 860-297-2250
>
> fax: 860-297-2251
>
> jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu
>
>
>