Can I second the motion of making this a matter of "cataloger's judgment"?

>From where I'm sitting, it does seem like a major change of scope to add
Alaska to the coverage, and Alaska is quite frequently NOT automatically
considered to be included in the Northwest region.  (I'm afraid we still
occasionally get people asking whether you can use the U.S. postal service
to send packages up here, etc., etc.)

Marlene A. Harris
Head of Technical Services
University of Alaska Anchorage

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Thanks, Steve.
I guess I wasn't as clear as I should have been in my description of the
question.

The 245 has four words in the title, so "& Alaska" is an addition of
words to the title, and indicates a change of scope.

I can see that an interpratation would be to call this a minor title
change per 21.2A2b (addition, deletion, or change of articles,
prepositions, or conjuctions anywhere in the title).

However, I still feel that the addition of the words and the scope
change removal of Canada, addition of Alaska seems rather major to me)
makes it quite clear that this is a major change, not a minor one..

Is there a way to readdress this so that we can use 57346281, which
appears to me in my "cataloger's judgement" to be the appropriate record
to use.

Thanks.

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[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Shadle
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Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Mobil travel guide. Northwest & Alaska

Robert -- I don't disagree with your judgment about change of scope, but
only want to point out that Alaska is the *sixth* word in the title ("&"
is a word), thus added after the first five.

My guess is that the cataloger working on it considerred Alaska
implicitly
part of the Northwest and didn't consider it a change of scope.  --Steve

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Bothmann, Robert L wrote:

> The 2003 and 2004 editions of "Mobil travel guide. Northwest" do not
> contain Alaska and DO contain some western Canadian provinces.
>
> The 2005 "Mobil travel guide. Northwest & Alaska" covers Alaska,
Idaho,
> Oregon, and Washington, but no Canadian provinces.
>
> Per AACR2 rule 21.2C2, the addition of Alaska to the first 5 words
> constitutes a major title change. The change in content (addition of
> Alaska, deletion of Canadian coverage) of the publication appears to
me
> to also be a major change. Also, I can't seem to make this change in
> title fit any of the conditions in 21.2C2b.
>
> Clarification, explanation would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> Robert Bothmann
> Electronic Access/Catalog Librarian
> Minnesota State University, Mankato
> Voice: 507-389-2010
> Fax: 507-389-5155
> mailto:robert.bothmann@mnsu.edu
>