> Apologies for late response > > While I am certainly not trying to justify unreasonable price increases, I > would just like to point out that many publishers are trying to develop > their pricing models for electronic licences, away from a print-based > model and towards something that is both more realistic and fairer; this > is in response to much, justifiable, criticism from librarians of the > print-based model. The trouble with any fairer model is that it hits > heavy users harder than before... > > Sally > Sally Morris, Chief Executive > Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers > South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex BN13 3UU, UK > > Phone: +44 (0)1903 871686 Fax: +44 (0)1903 871457 > E-mail: chief-exec@alpsp.org > ALPSP Website http://www.alpsp.org > > 6 December Seminar, London > Automated Journal Editorial and Production Workflow > http://www.alpsp.org/events/s061204.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Koveleskie, Judith" <kovelesk@SETONHILL.EDU> > To: <SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:46 PM > Subject: [SERIALST] Price increases for 2005 > > >>I second the motion. When we renew each year we have no idea what the new >>prices will be. We usually estimate an overall increase of around 10% that >>comes pretty close. However, I do have some titles that individually are >>ridiculous. Unfortunately, they are usually the ones that the faculty >>would most want us to keep and the publishers know this so I'm not sure >>how much we can "pressure" them. >> >> I am also wondering if more publishers are going to establish different >> rates for individuals and institutions. My biggest increases this year >> resulted from this change to two tier pricing. Of course, lots of >> journals have been doing this for awhile so when you compare like >> journals the new price is comparable - it just seemed like a big jump in >> one year. >> >> Judith A. Koveleskie >> Periodicals Librarian >> Seton Hill University >> Reeves Memorial Library >> Greensburg, PA 15601 >> 724-838-7828 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum >> [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU]On Behalf Of Christopher Allen Waldrop >> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:22 AM >> To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU >> Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Price increases for 2005 (Sandy Srivastava) >> >> >> Sandy, >> >> I'm sorry to come to this discussion late, but I wanted to add >> something else to the discussion of price increases. >> >> We use several different vendors for most of our subscriptions. >> Some time ago we asked our vendors whether we could be notified and >> be given the option of cancelling our subscriptions if the price >> increased more than 20%. One of our vendors agreed to this; another >> said they would be unable to do this. In the case of >> "non-cancellable" titles this means we sometimes have to accept >> surprise price increases, at least for a year. It also means, >> though, that we're going to be less likely to place new orders for >> non-cancellable titles with the vendor that can't notify us of >> price increases before we have a chance to cancel. >> >> What I'm getting at is that vendors have a lot more clout with >> publishers than individual libraries. Although neither the vendor >> nor the publisher wants to keep prices low, the reason we pay >> service charges is so vendors will act as representatives on our >> behalf to the publishers, not the other way around. It would make a >> big difference if vendors would either pressure publishers to >> release subscription rates earlier in the year or give libraries an >> "escape clause" to get out of subscriptions that go up too much. >> >> As an added note, there are a lot of different reasons why >> subscriptions increase in price, but the biggest increases I've >> seen are the result of journals moving from one publisher to >> another. When a journal goes from a university press to, say, >> Blackwell Publishing, it's almost certain the price will at least >> double. >> >> --On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:39 PM -0500 Bob Persing >> <persing@POBOX.UPENN.EDU> wrote: >> >>> Hi Serialsters: >>> >>> I just need to ask -- has anybody else noticed that some subscription >>> prices have skyrocketed to over 100% or higher on their invoices? I >>> just wanted to confirm that everyone else has seen these as well >>> i.e. >>> Harvard Law Review, Marriage and Family Review, Personnel >>> Psychology and I have a growing list I could put up here. >>> >>> I am used to price increases of 7-10 % but this is just crazy --? >>> Is anybody else experiencing higher than usual increases on >>> subscriptions? >>> Are the publishers having a free for all now? >>> >>> Sandy Srivastava >>> >>> Sandhya D. Srivastava >>> Assistant Professor >>> Serials Librarian >>> Hofstra University >>> Axinn Library >>> 123 Hofstra University >>> Hempstead, New York 11550 >>> Telephone: (516) 463 - 5959 >>> Fax: (516) 463 - 6438 >>> Email: librsds@hofstra.edu <mailto:librsds@hofstra.edu> >> >> >> >> Christopher Allen Waldrop >> Serials Coordinator >> Order Services Department >> Vanderbilt University Library >> Ph: 615-343-3831 >> Fax: 615-343-8834