Dear SERIALST colleagues, I have been lurking on this thread now for a while and I want to weigh in. However, before I do - I have a disclaimer to put forward - 1) Rick Anderson helps me edit ACQNET-L and so we are not strangers - but that has nothing to do with my comments here; 2) this thread is happening on SERIALST, where it should be - so please don't get confused and try to comment on ACQNET! (Thank you very much...) There has been a lot of discussion about these concepts and practices since Rick and others from UN-Reno have put them forth in various forums. There's more than article, plus a number of presentations at NASIG, the Charleston Conference and other places. I'm tooting my own horn here, but some of my App State colleagues and I have discussed some of these questions in <Serials Review> lately as well. See: Serials Review, Volume 30, Issue 2 <http://0-www.sciencedirect.com.wncln.wncln.org/science?_ob=IssueURL&_tockey=%23TOC%236587%232004%23999699997%23506205%23FLA%23display%23Volume_30,_Issue_2,_Pages_83-170_%28Summer_2004%29%23tagged%23Volume%23first%3D30%23Issue%23first%3D2%23Page%20> , Summer 2004, Pages 117-121 Here's the real point - We are in the middle of a huge shift. Some libraries are on the cutting edge, and many others will follow along eventually. What you are doing now may not be what you do in the future. Whatever you do, you need to be thinking about this shift and how your library will handle it. There are a number of knee jerk reactions that people constantly trot out. The auditor card is constantly played - I've done it too! But that is a red herring - let's face it, the auditors have to face the reality of the digital world on a number of fronts - not just the library. At universities, all kinds of financial transactions and properties that used to be physical are going digital - so forget using this as an excuse to hide from the changes that are inevitable. As to the value of what we used to do compared to what we are going to be doing in the future - this deserves some real analysis. We will - for the foreseeable future - continue to receive some physical journals that require and deserve checking in and claiming and binding and all the things we are used to doing. BUT NOT AS MANY AS BEFORE. There is and is going to continue to be many, many titles that can be and should be handled differently. And these titles, as electronic entities, will have their own special problems. For instance: When a print title changes publisher, your subscription agent makes sure you still receive it, and the serials staff may or may not catch that the publisher has changed. Sometimes serials catalogers catch this and document it, but only if they are dealing with a title change or are doing recon. (like anyone is doing that these days J )But in the print realm, this does not usually matter too much - as long as you get the issues. Oh yeah, sometimes the transition causes a claim, or the new publisher will delay the next volume, but you usually get what you paid for. In the online realm - not so! When Publisher A sells Title X to Publisher B, and all you have is the online version - what a mess!! Your online access is summarily cut off and you usually don't know anything about it until a patron complains or someone stumbles upon it. And it can take up to 6 months to a year to regain the access you have paid for. So welcome to a new claiming hell. I know that some publishers are waking up to this problem, but many are still in the dark. Another problem that we need to face is that URLs have to be perfect. We are not in the days when catalogers have the luxury to obsess over making their MARC records pretty - if the URL is not perfect, it doesn't connect. Remind your library director about that. With these and other challenges in mind, serials managers have to ask themselves whether it is more important to perfectly maintain the dwindling hundreds of print serials or the burgeoning thousands of online journals being thrust upon us. That is the point of everything Rick addresses in his articles and presentations. A lot of us say - they are both important. And the shift will take care of itself - well maybe. But if you are not proactive and take steps to manage the shift, someone else surely will do it for you. Sounds familiar doesn't it? Rick says he only has 2.5 staff to handle all this and hasn't addressed why he should ask for more. This makes me think that like me, he is doing a lot of this work himself. We have opportunities here for allowing our staff to learn new skills and have chances for position upgrades. I desperately need help with the online maintenance of e-journals. And not from other librarians - I need good, well-trained, staff to help with this. Systems staff and serials staff need to work more closely together to define the kinds of things they and the serials staff do on an every day basis. There are many opportunities here - and we have to accept that things are changing in a big way. Thanks for listening, Eleanor I. Cook Serials Coordinator & Professor Belk Library, ASU Box 32026 Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608-2026 828-262-2786 828-262-2773 fax cookei@appstate.edu