Message #1: From: "Deb Ham" <dldham@creighton.edu> Subject: RE: Odd question Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:49:11 -0500 Try Outlook (India). They started over with volume 1, number 1 when they changed publishers! I think that was in January of 2002 or 2003. Deb Ham Serials Associate Creighton University Reinert Alumni Library ------------------------- Message #2: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:18:40 -0500 From: Susan Andrews <Susan_Andrews@tamu-commerce.edu> Subject: Re: Odd question It *is* an odd question. My answer depends on how your catalog works. A favorite note for numbering changes is: Numbering changed ..., or Vol. numbering changed ... So if your catalog will search your notes fields (with either a notes search or a keyword search), I would try searching with one of those word combinations. In my catalog it brought up several such titles, including one of my personal favorites: Popular photography (it went from v.100 to v.57!). Hope this works, Susan Andrews Head, Serials Librarian Texas A&M University-Commerce P.O. Box 3011 Commerce, TX 75429-3011 Susan_Andrews@tamu-commerce.edu (903)886-5733 "Your Success Is Our Business" ------------------------- Message #3: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:37:25 -0500 From: "Helen Lord" <hlord@ahml.info> Subject: Odd question Hello, I hope I understood the question correctly. Popular Photography changed their numbers back in Apr 1993. Prior to May 1993 their numbering was 100:4 for Apr 1993. Then May 1993 became 57:1. I have a note in my checkin record that the publisher made this change "in keeping with government regulations and Library of Congress policy that magazines reflect years and months the publisher has actually been in existence. This magazine started May 1937. I hope I have helped. Helen Lord, Acquisitions Clerk, hlord@ahml.info Helen Lord,Acquisitions Clerk Arlington Heights Memorial Library 500 N. Dunton Ave Arlington Heights, IL 60004 Phone: (847) 870-4397 Fax: (847) 506-2636 hlord@ahml.info ------------------------- Message #4: From: smithaa@oplin.org Subject: Re: Odd question Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:13:13 -0400 Elizabeth - I used keyword searching in the OCLC WorldCat database to find the terms "numbering" and "change*", limiting the search to serial records in English ... it achieves results which are neither comprehensive, nor particularly interesting, but offers many appropriate answers. You might suggest an investigation of "keywords that suggest numbering change"; or maybe even this gives too much away ... I hope this helps ... Regards, Aaron Clermont County Public Library, Ohio smithaa@oplin.org ------------------------- Message #5: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:47:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester <dan@riverofdata.com> Subject: Re[2]: Odd question Here's an answer in case you have 73 Amateur Radio magazine going back to the sixties. Not likely, but the following is true. In the early sixties I worked for 73 Magazine in Peterborough NH (also home of the first tax supported free public library, 1833). The Editor/Owner was Wayne Green, who had previously edited CQ Amateur Radio magazine. They had a falling out, since he wasn't enough of a corporate lackey to the company that bought the magazine from a previous publisher, and he started his own magazine. I was an assistant editor. At that time CQ had volumes numbered into the 30s, I believe, regular annual numbering. 73 started in Oct 1960 with v.1, no.1. The first volume was 15 issues, ending at the end of 1961. That is sensible in its own way, so that things would be on a regular annual numbering pattern, starting with v.2, no.1. In 1962 or 1963 Wayne didn't like that his volume numbers were lower than they were at the now-hated CQ. So, he started increasing the volume number with each issue. v.5, no.1, followed by the next month's v.6, no.1, and so forth. After he got the volume numbers up high enough, he went back to regular volume numbering. Still later he switched to whole numbers (no.277, no. 278, etc.). Wayne was his own man, including having a wife who was 25 years younger and who didn't wear a bra, a totally shocking thing in small town New Hampshire in 1963 and 1964. He also, in the days when the issues had 72 pages (later increased to 160 or so), the pages were numbered up to page 71, followed by page 73 (naturally). The title page always listed an article on page 72, something totally revolutionary and shocking, to get people's attention. One other thing that drove subscribers and librarians crazy was that on one issue he printed the front cover upside down....on purpose. About five times the printer called to correct the error, but he finally got them to print it upside down. This meant that when they were put on the newsstand the spine was on the left. We got thousands of calls and letters about "the error", but he considered it a way to find out what the readers were really reading. Anyway, if you have 73, you have an example for your student. dan -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com Have you forgotten 9/11? > -----Original Message----- > From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum > [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU]On Behalf Of Urbanik, Elizabeth > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:57 PM > To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU > Subject: Odd question > > > I just had our current journals librarian ask me a question on behalf of a > student. She said his assignment was to find a serial or journal that had > had a numbering change. Obviously this is one of those things the profs do > to get their students acquainted with the library (I hope). I'm > stumped. Can > anyone out there give me any hints? What I want to do is be able > to give the > student a clue or a couple of steps that would set him on the > right path -- > I don't like handing out answers to assignments if it's the > student's job to > find those answers. > > Thanks for any help you can give, > Elizabeth > > Elizabeth Urbanik, Assistant Professor > Serials Cataloger > Mississippi State University > 662-325-7665 > eurbanik@library.msstate.edu > > "Frugality for the Public is a rare virtue, but when the public > Service must > suffer by it, it degenerates into a Vice" -- William Byrd II
