----------1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:46:07 -0500 From: Ken Siegert <ken.siegert@fandm.edu> Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology If I remember correctly, "International Journal of Comparative Sociology" (and a few other titles) had been published by Brill. These titles are now being published by deSitter, and are continuing. Brill has replaced "International Journal of Comparative Sociology" with "Comparative Sociology", etc. The titles are independent of each other. Ken >I'm hoping someone out there can help me with this dilemma. We subscribe to >the journal "International Journal of Comparative Sociology" (issn:0020-7152 >OCLC#1654008). Recently we got Vol. 2:3 (2003) of a title called "Comparative >Sociology" (issn:1569-1322 OCLC#48789055). I got to wondering if they were >related when we were claiming an issue of the first title, and they are, but >here is where it gets interesting. IJCS is not closed out as yet in OCLC, but >there is a 785 field for "Comparative Sociology". The bib record for >"Comparative Sociology" says it began with Vol. 1, no. 1 (2002)- and has a 780 >field for "IJCS". The kicker is that we have 4 issues for Vol. 43 (2002)of >IJCS on our shelves, when it had supposedly changed title. Were the two >journals being published simultaneously with different titles and volumes? Is >the content the same? I don't know how else to explain this. Does anyone else >out there have this same problem, or does anyone have issues of Vol. 1 (2002) >for "Comparative Sociology"? Further, can anyone explain how this can be, or >what I should do about it? I hope I have explained this allright, and thank >you in advance for your consideration and help. > >Tom Evans >Periodicals Librarian >Canisius College Library >evans@canisus.edu >Phone 716-888-2932 >Fax 716-888-2887 -- Ken Siegert Acquisitions Assistant Shadek-Fackenthal Library Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3003 Lancaster, PA 17604-3003 Phone - (717) 291-4219 Fax - (717) 291-4160 ----------2 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:48:13 -0600 From: Mary Lou Epp <mep1@unlnotes.unl.edu> Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology Ebsco told us that this is one where the editor (who owned the rights to the title) moved from Brill to DeSitter publications. Brill decided to continuing publishing a title with the name Comparative Sociology. So from Brill's perspective it is a title change, but in reality they are two separate titles with a publisher change. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MaryLou Epp email: mepp1@unl.edu University Libraries phone: (402) 472-2542 Acq/Ser.Rec. fax: (402) 472-2534 302 Love Library PO Box 880410 Lincoln NE 68588-0410 ----------3 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:48:44 -0500 From: Susan Davis <unlsdb@acsu.buffalo.edu> Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology Tom, this was a case where someone owned the rights to the title and chose to move the journal away from the commercial publisher. Said publisher decided to keep publishing a competing journal. (For those of you with long memories remember the Bulletin of Hispanic Studies--Glasgow and Liverpool editions). So the commercial publisher published IJCS thru 2002, then started a new journal, Comparative Sociology. As far as we know IJCS is still published (but by someone else). As a subscriber you should have received many missives about this situation, I know we did. Several other journals were affected by this situation. Journal of Asian and African Studies/African and Asian Studies is another one we subscribe to. If you need more explanation, give me a call. I'm responding to the list in case anyone else has a question. This is the quick and dirty version of events. Susan Susan Davis Head, Periodicals University at Buffalo (SUNY) 134 Lockwood Library Buffalo, NY 14260-2210 (716) 645-2784 (716) 645-5955 fax unlsdb@buffalo.edu ----------4 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:59:10 -0600 From: "Skwor, Jeanette" <skworj@uwgb.edu> Subject: RE: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology ***FWIW, Cofrin Library got the same issue of Comparative Sociology, & we don't subscribe to the International Jrnl of Same. ***I think they're pushing the subscription. ***But then serials work has turned me into a skeptic . . . Jeanette L. Skwor Cofrin Library, Serials Dept. University of WI - Green Bay 2420 Nicolet Drive Green Bay, WI 54311-7001 (920) 465-2670 ----------5 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:02:42 -0800 From: Gerald Saunders <gsaunder@usc.edu> Subject: RE: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology Tom, This isn't a *complete* change of title: the indicators for the 785 field you noted in the record for IJCS are 01, meaning that Comparative Sociology continued *in part* the earlier title (IJCS), which itself is still being published. So, yes, in a sense, there was a period when the two were being published "simultaneously with different titles and volumes"... and still are. What difference there is in content to "justify" the new "spin-off" title, isn't made clear in the OCLC master records: perhaps there was some announcement from the publisher in the first "sample" issue of Comparative Sociology (v.1, no. 1 (2002)). Hope this helps. Gerald. ================ Gerald Saunders Team Leader, Serials Acquisitions (SerAcq) Project Leader, Serials Holdings Display Project (SHDP) USC Information Services Division 213-821-5610 213-740-0959 (fax) gsaunder@usc.edu ----------6 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:05:43 -0500 From: Ann Gardner <AGARDNER@mail.nysed.gov> Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology Dear Mr. Evans, The indicators on the records tell the story; Comparative sociology has 780 07 meaning "separated from". The IJCS record has 785 01 Comparative sociology, meaning "continued in part by". Therefore, IJCS did not cease and that is why you are still receiving it as that title. The field indicators are list in OCLC Bibliographic Formats and MARC 21 Bibliographic Formats. Good luck, Ann Ann L. Gardner Library Technical Assistant Serials Cataloging/CONSER Unit New York State Library CEC, 6th Floor Albany, N.Y. 12230 phone: (518) 474-7274 E-Mail: agardner@mail.nysed.gov ----------7 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:02:05 -0500 From: Michael.Borries@domino1.cuny.edu Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology Notice the second indicators in fields 780 and 785. Apparently the second title split off from the first title, but the first title is still continues. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, Office of Library Services, Central Office City University of New York 555 West 57th Street, 16th Floor New York, NY 10019 email: michael.borries@mail.cuny.edu Phone: (212) 541-0376